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'Good and honest' Iraqis fighting US forces
Gulf-News ^

Posted on 06/09/2005 6:25:47 PM PDT by jmc1969

A senior US military chief has admitted "good, honest" Iraqis are fighting American forces.

Major General Joseph Taluto said he could understand why some ordinary people would take up arms against the US military because "they're offended by our presence".

In an interview with Gulf News, he said: "If a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could [want to fight us]."

His comments come in stark contrast to the assertions of other top US figures, who persist in claiming all insurgents are either Baathists or Al Qaida terrorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at gulf-news.com ...


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This guy doesn't seem to look at the numbers, 9 out of 10 of are soldiers who die from combat related wounds die from IEDs and suicide bombers and look to Ansar al-Sunna, Ansar al-Islam, and al-Qaeda for the vast majority of such attacks. If you read the article from the insurgents in the WP yesterday even the they admit the foreign fighters have had to pull the weight of the insurgency because the Iraqis aren't doing much right now.
1 posted on 06/09/2005 6:25:47 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

First we have to ascertain if this guy exists and if he uttered those words.


2 posted on 06/09/2005 6:28:15 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: jmc1969

It's the 1 out of 10 this article addresses, maybe even less.


3 posted on 06/09/2005 6:30:01 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: jmc1969

Maybe they are good and honest, They are also stupid. The sooner the fighting stops the sooner we will be out of their hair. Dumb Bastids.


4 posted on 06/09/2005 6:33:17 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Thebaddog

Right on that.

That kind of talk from a senior military official, directly to the press, should get him drummed out of the service pronto. There are military personel whose job is to liason with the civilian press.


5 posted on 06/09/2005 6:33:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Thebaddog

By the looks of it, he was taken out of context.


6 posted on 06/09/2005 6:33:52 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: jmc1969
In an interview with Gulf News, he said: "If a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could [want to fight us]."

We do not have the car bombs go off, General, the terrorists "have them" go off. This General needs some R & R badly. Send him to Alaska before his confusion gets more of our kids killed.

7 posted on 06/09/2005 6:35:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Thebaddog

MG Joseph Taluto is listed as the Commanding General, 42d Infantry Division (NG). This is a Dubai media article and I consider it highly suspect until proven otherwise.


8 posted on 06/09/2005 6:35:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: TheDon

He still should know better.

Can't believe he has two stars on his shoulder.


9 posted on 06/09/2005 6:35:56 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: jmc1969

More like 1 our of a 100. Intelligence types say that the non-hardcore terrorist folk are usually low-lifes or the really desperate trying to cash in.

It's hard to imagine many honest but misguided nationalists falling in with that crowd.


10 posted on 06/09/2005 6:36:05 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("Sometimes you're windshield, sometimes you' re the bug")
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To: Wiseghy

Contrast this with the Biden article that talks about insurgents. What the heck is going on...and who is telling stories?


11 posted on 06/09/2005 6:44:03 PM PDT by philz
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To: jmc1969
Could be a Hillary holdover...

MG Taluto

12 posted on 06/09/2005 6:44:31 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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Maybe Major General Joseph Taluto is tired of the burden of command already. I'd find some papers for him to shuffle somewhere. We need Division Commanders that will fire the troops up, not tell them that the guys trying to kill them are "good and honest" folks.

"Do you men want to grovel on your face to Allah five times a day? Do you want you wife or your mother to wear a burka? Do you want your kids kowtowing to some Arab mullah? If you don't then you better kill your enemies fast and furious because they sure want to kill you and take what's yours!"

That's what they need to hear.


13 posted on 06/09/2005 6:44:38 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: TADSLOS

A LOT of senior career military officers were quietly forced into retirement after Clinton took office to clear the ranks for those with the more "proper" viewpoints. And it shows.


15 posted on 06/09/2005 6:47:44 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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Maybe Major General Joseph Taluto is tired of the burden of command already.

I think you're right. This guy has never commanded a combat unit above company level until pinning on a star and he's never served outside of NY state until now, according to his bio.

16 posted on 06/09/2005 6:51:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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There were a few things that I agreed with Hackworth about (RIP), but one thing he was sure as hell right about was that Bush should've FIRED just about every thing above a one star when he took office to clear the stink of "perfumed princes" out of the Pentagon.
17 posted on 06/09/2005 6:53:18 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Bottom line, assuming he is actually being quoted accurately in this article- Since he was recalled from retirement, He'll never see a third star and serve as the Chief, Army National Guard (the only 3 star ARNG post available) and he knows it. Hillary and the majority of the NY electorate will protect and encourage him to speak out in the meantime. From his viewpoint he's in a no lose situation to say what he wants or say what is fed to him for alterior motives. Conjecture on my part, but plausible, unfortunately.


18 posted on 06/09/2005 6:59:49 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Finalapproach29er

LOL! Don't be ridiculous. No matter what you say, your words will be twisted into some anti-American comment. The media hack's mental filter does it automatically.


19 posted on 06/09/2005 7:04:23 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: TADSLOS

We need warriors, and warriors with a lot of overseas experience at that. There must be plenty of them in the sytem. Why are they playing at this?


20 posted on 06/09/2005 7:04:55 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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