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Canada's medical system hit by ruling
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE ^ | 06/10/05 | Clifford Krauss

Posted on 06/10/2005 9:21:38 AM PDT by RS

TORONTO – Canada's Supreme Court yesterday struck down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance in a decision that represents a blow to the nation's publicly financed health care system.

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Canada is the only industrialized country that outlaws privately financed purchases of core medical services.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carecanada; health; hillerycare; insurance; medical

1 posted on 06/10/2005 9:21:39 AM PDT by RS
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To: RS

They not only ban private insurance, they ban private self-funded medicine from being practiced?

Wow!


2 posted on 06/10/2005 9:23:40 AM PDT by Fixit (comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: RS

bump.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 9:25:31 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Fixit
Yup...that wouldn't be "fair"

Funny how all the propaganda we get in the states show Canada's health care system as this shinning example of how a Natl. Health Care Sys should be run. Womp Womp Womp.
4 posted on 06/10/2005 9:29:02 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Fixit

I was listening to "As It Happens" on NPR last night driving home when they were interviewing some Health Mininster in Canada about the ruling. The Minister was in crisis mode---refusing to answer questions directly and coming back over and over again to 'we have been making efforts to improve access'...Canada does some things very well---preventative medicine, basic care needs for a minimum level of care for everyone, etc, but the system does not support advanced technology and specialty access.
I'll be interested to see how this plays out.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 9:31:13 AM PDT by flixxx
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To: Fixit
Canadians are among the biggest opponents of socialized medicine in the U.S.

If the U.S. enacted a Canadian style health system, where would the Canadians go whenever they need to see a doctor?

6 posted on 06/10/2005 9:31:42 AM PDT by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: RS

This is a wonderful development for two reasons.

First, it might actually lead my fellow Canadians to have a reasonable debate on health care. For far too long, our medicare system has been elevated almost to the status of a state religion. Despite numerous studies and commissions on health care, and several elections at both the provincial and federal level being fought on health care issues; there has been no real, honest debate. Supporters of the status quo accuse anyone criticizing the system of supporting "American-style" health care. The fact that even "progressive" European nations all have mixed public/private health care is left out of the debate. Perhaps now Canadians will actually engage in a real, and possibly productive debate about the issue.

Second, it was the Supreme Court of Canada, in an instance of judicial activism that brought down this decision. Left-wingers, and "social progressives" have staunchly defended judicial activism since the advent of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms gave our Supreme Court much the same power as the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down legislation it deems "unconstitutional". Now, the public program most sacred (literally) to the left has been attacked by the infalliable Supremes. I imagine that heads must be exploding, trying to reconcile these facts. Perhaps now, we Canadians can also have a reasonable debate about judical activism.


7 posted on 06/10/2005 9:42:10 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Fixit
Canada is the only industrialized country that outlaws privately financed purchases of core medical services

When health care is outlawed, only criminals will have health care?

8 posted on 06/10/2005 9:42:29 AM PDT by 11Bush (If the shootin' don't start soon, I'll have to mount the Ma-Duece on my wheelchair.)
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To: RS

But, but, but. . .I thought government provided health care was the answer to all our problems. Why would Canadians want private insurance?


9 posted on 06/10/2005 9:57:40 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: RS

The Supreme Court decision contains this quote, from the Justice writing for the majority: "Access to a waiting list is not access to health care".


10 posted on 06/10/2005 10:00:25 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: flixxx

Maybe not. The clincis in Duluth Minnesota can make change in Canadian dollars.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 10:17:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Fixit
They not only ban private insurance, they ban private self-funded medicine from being practiced?

I have argued for some time that, because it prevents a Canadian citizen from paying a health-care provider to actually provide health care outside the state system, the Canadian health-care system is a major violation of the most basic human rights.

12 posted on 06/10/2005 10:20:12 AM PDT by untenured
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To: RS
...in a decision that represents a blow to the nation's publicly financed health care system.

Why don't they say, "in a decision that represents a boost to the freedom of the nation's citizens"?

13 posted on 06/10/2005 10:49:24 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"This is a wonderful development for two reasons. "

Two great points... and welcome to FR !


14 posted on 06/10/2005 2:04:40 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

""Access to a waiting list is not access to health care".

That would make a great tagline :-)


15 posted on 06/10/2005 2:06:04 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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