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Analysis: is the EU summit heading for a bloodbath?
The Times Online ^ | June 10 2005 | Philip Webster

Posted on 06/10/2005 9:36:21 AM PDT by knighthawk

Philip Webster, The Times Political Editor, says that neither side looks in a mood to back down

"It's impossible to tell whether the fact that both sides are taking a hard line means that they are prepared for the summit to fail, or whether they are taking this hard line now in the hope that it will force a situation in which they have to sit down and come to deal.

"At the moment that looks impossible, because the British are saying that the budget rebate is non-negotiable, unless the vast sums that France gets from the Common Agricultural Policy are also put on the table.

"There is no way that the French will suddenly allow the CAP deal, agreed in 2002, to be reopened. There might be some middle way to allow some kind of agricultural items to be discussed and the British to make a concession of some sort, but there's no sign of that so far.

"There is a lot of anger on the British side that France and Germany seem to want to make so much of this budget issue just so the spotlight is taken away from the 'no' votes in France and the Netherlands on the EU constitution. The French, in particular, are being accused of diversionary tactics. The French deny this - they say that this item was always going to be on the agenda of next week's summit.

"There is a very bad atmosphere around at the moment, but given that they don't want the whole enterprise to fall apart, I assume there will be efforts made before Wednesday night to smooth things and calm tempers.

"There is a foreign ministers' meeting in Luxembourg on Sunday night, and Blair is going to Berlin and Paris early next week, so there will be attempts then to prevent the showpiece summit of the Luxembourg presidency ending in a bloodbath.

"Despite that, once they get into the summit itself on Thursday and Friday, who knows what will happen? Chirac goes there from a position of weakness; Schroeder, too, goes from a position of weakness; Blair, having won an election, goes there from a position of strength. And he appears at the moment to want to make the most of that position, which is why he seems to be pushing an extremely hard bargain about this rebate, and calling for a fundamental debate on the finances of Eruope.

"What he and Brown see is that the rebate has become a symbol for a wider problem. They want the EU to sit down and try to curb its excessive spending on the CAP and structural funds. It doesn't look like an issue that's going to end with a nice happy handshake next week. It's going to roll on into the British presidency.

"And Brown, reappointed Chancellor, is speaking with added authority. He's about to take over as chairman of the council of finance ministers. I think the rest of Europe is taking notice - what they've heard about Gordon Brown being tougher than Blair on Europe questions is becoming clearer. He even said this morning that Thatcher would be pleased with him - I never thought I'd hear that."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britian; eu; europe; europeanunion; eusummit; france; uk

1 posted on 06/10/2005 9:36:21 AM PDT by knighthawk
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2 posted on 06/10/2005 9:36:38 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

thanks for the ping... good article.

As we speak, $1 = 1.2119 euros, still dropping...


3 posted on 06/10/2005 9:46:49 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: knighthawk
A couple of other things have happened since 2002 that feed the fire, notably the French and Germans running an impermissible deficit and then claiming exemption from the rules. The damage that caused seems more political than economic, but it's a bad impression to leave with smaller nations trying to decide whether to trust the big ones enough to sign onto a common economic policy.

The real bloodbath at this summit is more likely to be not between nations per se but between those individuals whose interpretation of the Dutch and French elections is that a major restructuring of the proposed EU constitution is in order, and those who insist on marching forward as if nothing particularly significant happened. Given the tremendous inertia up to last month I'd have to bet on the latter, but I think it's the wrong course.

4 posted on 06/10/2005 9:49:54 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RobFromGa

The Gas prices in Europe are going through the ceiling.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 9:58:22 AM PDT by americanbychoice2
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To: Billthedrill

Don't underestimate the importance of the money issue -- it's much more important than the political/constitution issue. In fact, the original reason why EU was founded in the mid 1950's was as a polite way to extract war-reparation funds from the Germans and get money to prop up France's inefficient agriculture.


6 posted on 06/10/2005 10:11:04 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: knighthawk

Add me to ping list please.

Also, I'm looking for some good Euro-blogs. Any ideas?


7 posted on 06/10/2005 10:26:47 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

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8 posted on 06/10/2005 10:27:58 AM PDT by americanbychoice2
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To: knighthawk

Gordon Brown, the dour son of a Scottish manse, is probably more "old Labour" than Blair, but he seems to have accepted the value of the Thatcher reforms and clearly sees the folly in the Franco-German economic quagmire.


9 posted on 06/10/2005 10:40:24 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: knighthawk

Isn't it curious that the French and Germans, who oppose the "Anglo" economic model, nevertheless want to apply heavy taxes to the free-market UK -- in order to subsidize their own failed, constricted economies?


10 posted on 06/10/2005 10:43:50 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Grampa Dave

pinging you to another you might find of interest


11 posted on 06/10/2005 12:00:11 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: knighthawk

A bloodbath...something Europe should be used to by now.


12 posted on 06/10/2005 4:03:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pfony1

"Isn't it curious that the French and Germans, who oppose the "Anglo" economic model, nevertheless want to apply heavy taxes to the free-market UK"

Chirac and Schroeder could wring every red penny from the UK and it still wouldn't be enough. What's amazing is how hugely disproportionate the UK's "contribution" is compared to France. Let's hope Blair sticks to his guns.


13 posted on 06/10/2005 4:13:27 PM PDT by Owl558 (Please excuse my spelling)
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To: knighthawk

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 06/10/2005 7:46:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for fools.)
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To: Fenris6

I added you to the list. Not sure on the blogs though.


15 posted on 06/11/2005 12:59:36 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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