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Teaching Euthanasia (in American Catholic universities)
Crisis ^ | June 2005 | Patrick J.Reilly

Posted on 06/10/2005 9:56:36 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Coleus

Euthaheresy?


21 posted on 06/11/2005 8:19:37 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Coleus
http://www.macathconf.org/6Teachings.htm
Six Teachings Every Catholic Should Know About End of Life Issues & Care for the Dying
 
http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/euthanas/index.htm
Assisted Suicide/Euthanasia
 
 
http://www.lifeissues.net/
Life Issues.net
 
http://www.dovrespectlife.org/endoflife.htm
RESOURCES AND INFORMATION

22 posted on 06/11/2005 8:52:07 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: expatguy; Coleus

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0505/opinion/miller.html

This infuriated me, but it is accurate from a legal perspective. It is one reason I decided to subscribe to this journal of unvarnished thought. The law needs to be changed. So long as Roe v. Wade stands, the benchmark for the Terri findings and all horrendous rulings are fought on the fringes. Just recall that the laws used to enforce the Holocaust WERE laws. They were against the Natural Law, but they were the law of Germany.

Frank


23 posted on 06/11/2005 9:35:24 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

When did Moral Theology fall to such an abysmal degree? This finding is not even pagan. It is from the era of Moloch.

If only I live to see the day when Cardinal Chaput of Washington takes on Georgetown U.! That should be worth the cost of a ringside seat.

No Mandatum = not Catholic.

Frank


24 posted on 06/11/2005 9:40:11 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: floriduh voter

The final attorney for Terri (I think her name is Anderson) knows where many skeletons are buried. She has implicated the Hemlock Society and other organizations in this tail of woe.

Mark Fuhrman is apparently investigating and is to write a book on the Schiavo affair. I look forward to that.

The independent Path report by the former ME from New York claimed, as Anderson did, that Schiavo was choked almost to death. Her loss of higher function was not due to potassium imbalance but to an attempted murder and less of oxygen to her brain. Even the EMTs at the scene called the police to investigate. I think they suspected strangulation but now, none will talk. The ME claimed her neck "posture" was typical of defensive "guarding" (IIRC) and belied severe injury that made her neck all but immovable. Even nurses will testify to that.

This is a case that will echo for a long time like the Vince Foster case.

Frank


25 posted on 06/11/2005 9:52:07 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: Frank Sheed

Mark Fuhrman's book is out on June 28th. He has a page on amazon.com. We have a jpeg of his book cover. There's another book that is going to be on shelves or available through the internet. That book cover and info is on my home page at conservative-spirit.org.


26 posted on 06/11/2005 10:13:07 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Frank Sheed
www.harpercollins.com

SILENT WITNESS by Mark Fuhrman

Tease:

And it's not over yet. Despite her death, the controversy lingers. In Silent Witness, former LAPD detective and New York Times bestselling author Mark Fuhrman applies his highly respected investigative skills to examine the medical evidence, legal case files, and police records. With the complete cooperation of Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings, as well as their medical and legal advisers, he conducts exclusive interviews with forensics experts and crucial witnesses, including friends, family members, and caregivers.

27 posted on 06/11/2005 10:28:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Coleus

bimp


28 posted on 06/11/2005 10:39:08 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: MarMema

I can't believe a wife would do this. I would give years off my life if I could have my late husband back even like that.


29 posted on 06/11/2005 10:48:01 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Pepper777

I listened to NPR one morning during the horrible death of Terri Schindler and heard some of these hospital based bio-"ethicists" talking to the interviewer. They were whining that they would not be able to make their reasoned decisions because of interference. It was truly chilling listening to these monsters talk calmly about killing people.


30 posted on 06/11/2005 12:10:21 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (You should be TERRIfied that you may someday be SCHIAVOed to death!)
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To: Frank Sheed

When did Moral Theology fall to such an abysmal degree?

Complicated story. Peter Dale Scott's concept of "deep politics" might apply here as it did to Watergate, Deep Thorat, and the Kennedy assassination. Different overlapping cabals and ideological/power pressures creating multiple tendencies and trends away from orthodoxy. Ironically enough, liberal Protestant theology took the lead. American Catholic theologians and ethicists wanted to be cool and imitated them.

The Georgetown model is more of a symptom than the cause. Prior to the postconciliar silliness in the 1960s and '70s, liberal Catholic clergy (often associated with Jesuit circles)were already trying to accomodate liberal Catholic laity. The Kennedy model of de-emphasizing Catholic identity and allegiance in order to advance socially in Ivy League circles was one of the power pressures. Liberal Protestant Theology aping German trends and some of the styles coming out of Cambridge in England added the pseudo-intellectual sophistication carrot for the sycophantic social advancement stick. The more anxious and fervent was the desire to advance through the Ivy system, all the more did those liberal Catholics begin bowing down before the Malthusian population control altars sponsored by the Rockefeller Foundation and its minions. Morally weak and intellectually feeble clergy were found to put a Roman smile on these fashionable trends.

The push for euthanasia has been riding down the same slippery slope that gave us abortion on demand in America. Liberal catholics following liberal trends in order to be "cool" and "in" and "with it." And don't forget the hospital and hospice costs of caring for the elderly. Sad story.

31 posted on 06/11/2005 1:58:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Frank Sheed
Imagine the clergy equivalents who would want to accomodate Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi. Or the kind of priests who would actually get excited about being invited to a party at Hyannis. And tell you about all the different kinds of foods, what people were wearing, where they had recently vacationed, and how much money they had.
32 posted on 06/11/2005 2:09:17 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Very good precis, Howling. Thanks!

Pick up Introduction to Christianity by His Holiness if you have a chance. I have only read the Preface to the 2000 edition and he has bowled me over already. What an intellect and how spot on is his take on Nietzsche's message [and its ramifications for dehumanization on a mass scale!]. I thank the Lord for this Pope.

Frank


33 posted on 06/11/2005 4:06:27 PM PDT by Frank Sheed
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To: Frank Sheed

"Giles Milhaven, Charles Curran, and Richard McBrien...call your offices..."


34 posted on 06/11/2005 5:03:27 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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later pingout.


35 posted on 06/11/2005 5:10:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Salvation
Indeed there is practically no Christian denomination in America that would have condoned Terri's death as it was carried out.

ADDRESS OF JOHN PAUL II TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS ON "LIFE-SUSTAINING TREATMENTS AND VEGETATIVE STATE: SCIENTIFIC ADVANCES AND ETHICAL DILEMMAS" Saturday, 20 March 2004

"....I feel the duty to reaffirm strongly that the intrinsic value and personal dignity of every human being do not change, no matter what the concrete circumstances of his or her life. A man, even if seriously ill or disabled in the exercise of his highest functions, is and always will be a man, and he will never become a "vegetable" or an "animal"....

I should like particularly to underline how the administration of water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represents a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act. Its use, furthermore, should be considered, in principle, ordinary and proportionate, and as such morally obligatory, insofar as and until it is seen to have attained its proper finality, which in the present case consists in providing nourishment to the patient and alleviation of his suffering.

.....As a pledge and support of this, your authentic humanitarian mission to give comfort and support to your suffering brothers and sisters, I remind you of the words of Jesus: "Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me" (Mt 25: 40).

SOUTHERN BAPTIST

"....WHEREAS, Western medicine has heretofore followed both the Judeo-Christian tradition and the over 2,500 year-old Hippocratic tradition forbidding physicians to assist in the death of their patients; and

WHEREAS, The Bible teaches that God created all human life in His own image and declares human life to be sacred from conception until natural death (Genesis 1:29:6 and following); and

WHEREAS, The Bible likewise teaches that murder, including self-murder, is immoral (Exodus 20:13); and

WHEREAS, American society seems to be embracing of the "culture of death"...."

Be it therefore RESOLVED, that we the messengers of the Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana, June 11-13, 1996, affirm the biblical and Hippocratic prohibitions against assisted suicide.."

THE ORTHODOX CHURCH

...."Euthanasia is understood to be the view or practice which holds that a person has the right, and even the moral obligation, to end his or her life when it is considered to be - for whatever subjectively accepted reason "not worth living." Euthanasia advocates nearly always include in this assertion the right and duty of others, including medical personnel, to assist the person in fulfilling this purpose. Needless to say, the Orthodox Church rejects such a view, seeing such behavior as a form of suicide on the part of the individual, and a form of murder on a part of others who assist in this practice, both of which are seen as sins. Thus the Orthodox Church, in the words of 1976 Chrismms encyclical of former Archbishop Iakovos, considers "euthanasia and abortion, along with homosexuality...a...moral alienation."....

PRESBYTERIAN

"....Today there are mounting pressures upon medical professionals, pastors, families, and individuals to hasten the death of those under their care or authority. Such hastening sometimes takes the form of direct action, such as a lethal injection. It may also take a passive form in neglect or withdrawal of the necessary means of preservation of life. Such means include medical treatment, both extraordinary and ordinary. But they also include basic provisions normally understood as care, warmth, cleanliness, food, water, and love.

Christians must distinguish between "treatment" and "care". Where medical treatment which is not gravely burdensome is necessary for an individual to continue to live, the withdrawal of such treatment - except in cases where death is imminent and inevitable and to continue such treatment would pose a grave risk or cause more burden to the patient than it would alleviate - is a violation of the image of God which all men and women bear..."

36 posted on 06/11/2005 6:26:48 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Coleus

food and water "burdensome interventions"?

With all due respect to their Holy Orders, these men will have much to answer up for when they pass on.


37 posted on 06/11/2005 6:33:28 PM PDT by milford421
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To: Coleus; 8mmMauser
Among the ethicists signing the brief were six Catholic university professors: Charles Baron, professor at Boston College Law School; Carol Bayley, adjunct professor of nursing at the University of San Francisco; Milton Heifetz, adjunct professor at Boston College Law School; Lawrence Nelson, adjunct associate professor of philosophy and of women and gender studies at Santa Clara University; Rev. John Paris, S.J., professor of bioethics in the theology department at Boston College; and James Walter, professor of bioethics and chairman of the Bioethics Institute at Loyola Marymount University.

Let's see, we don't hang people for treason anymore(John effn' Kerry, Jane Fonda, Michael Moore, et al), nor do supposed Catholics get excommunicated for disobeying the Church's teachings. Why bother having laws and rules? At least the Baptist Church kindly asked brother Greer to leave. Well there's a new Pope in Rome, and I hope he has the guts to start tackling the problems.

Thanks for pinging me, 8mm. This article was worth reading.

38 posted on 06/11/2005 6:42:16 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: milford421

How much more the shepherd when he is responsible for leading his sheep astray............


39 posted on 06/11/2005 6:59:32 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

"unacceptable"

40 posted on 06/11/2005 8:09:47 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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