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Russia to test PAK-FA in 2007 ( Counter to the F-22 Raptors?)
India-Defence & ITAR TASS ^ | June 8, 2005

Posted on 06/10/2005 10:05:36 PM PDT by Srirangan

Russia to test PAK-FA in 2007

KUBINKA, Moscow Region, June 8 (Itar-Tass) -- The development of the fifth generation fighter proceeds in strict compliance with the schedule and the plane will be flight-tested in 2007, the commander-in-chief of the Air Force, Vladimir Mikhailov has said.

About the condition of the Russian Air Force’s fleet of aircraft Mikhailov said, “the Air Force receives planes in sufficient numbers, there are aircraft at the reserve bases, too.”

“We are also receiving new planes, including Su-34 and Su-27SM, and others still being tested. There is nothing we can criticize these planes for.”

Russian presidential adviser Alexander Burutin told reporters that the Russian Air Force by 2012 will have up to 60 percent of new aviation technologies.

“A new armament program has been developed and we shall achieve this parameter by 2010-2012,” he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: airforce; f22; fifth; fighter; generation; junk; pakfa; russia; russianmilitary; usaf
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More info about the PAK FA [Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi]
1 posted on 06/10/2005 10:05:36 PM PDT by Srirangan
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To: Srirangan

Typical Soviet press release. Several paragraphs of no information and much doubletalk.


2 posted on 06/10/2005 10:09:36 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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3 posted on 06/10/2005 10:11:18 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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That's not the PAK FA. PAK FA is based on the Su 37 Berkut.


4 posted on 06/10/2005 10:15:21 PM PDT by Srirangan
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To: Srirangan

oops.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 10:18:56 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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To: Srirangan

http://uploads.abovetopsecret.com/ats15787_PAK_FA.jpg

This was the link.


6 posted on 06/10/2005 10:19:23 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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Ah welcome to the internet, its full of fakes. Ever seen CHinese military pics? Rofl!


7 posted on 06/10/2005 10:24:00 PM PDT by Srirangan
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8 posted on 06/10/2005 10:30:31 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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Niiiiiice


9 posted on 06/10/2005 10:35:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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That must be a French design. They've got the darn wings on backwards.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 10:41:49 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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100% Russian. You'll have to admit they come up with great fighters.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 10:44:48 PM PDT by Srirangan
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12 posted on 06/10/2005 10:48:14 PM PDT by Srirangan
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15 posted on 06/10/2005 11:15:28 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Srirangan

I thought Russia (and maybe India) would use Mig-1.42/1.44 as the platform of the fifth generation fighter. I wonder why they trashed it and start all over with a new one.


16 posted on 06/10/2005 11:21:34 PM PDT by Wiz
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If they are built like they build submarines we have nothing to be concerned about.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 11:24:45 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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Why would you say that? While the Russians do not have the money to maintain or operate their submarines at all times, it does not mean that they are not of high quality. Russian and other spies in the cold war ensured that.
18 posted on 06/10/2005 11:35:49 PM PDT by burzum
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To: F15Eagle

I have noticed that much of our aircraft design ends up in Russia. Some of it we abandoned for various reasons, some not always good, others they seem to have before we can get them into test. Didn't we have and abandon the plane that eventually became a commericail aircraft as the SST and that same design became one of Russia's mainline bombers?


19 posted on 06/10/2005 11:38:03 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Srirangan
...this PAK-FA?










PAK-FA Sukhoi T-50

Engines: AL-41F1 2*15500 kgs.
Weight:
VSTOL 21000 kg
max 32800 kg (runway 160m)/31600 kg
Fuel (int) 7000 /10800 kg
Dimensions 20.6 x 14.4 / 7.82 x 5.84 м
Sq 54.6 /77 sq.m

Max speed 2250 km/h
Alt.: 18800 m

Load balance: 0.95
Flight range: 4200-5500/7400 km

Armament: 2x30mm gun
Hardpoints: 8 (conf.), 2*4

Development of Russia's LFI (logkiy frontovoi istrebitel)
lightweight tactical fighter has been dramatically accelerated after the Russian Air Force decided its priorities for the next 10 years. Revealed here exclusively as the I-2000 (Istrebitel {fighter} 2000) project, the aircraft is due to become operational in 2005 as Russia's basic front-line fighter. It is also likely to become the leading export product of the Russian aircraft industry. Available information on the I-2000 indicates that it will be closely comparable to the US Joint Strike Fighter, operating in both the air-to-air and air-to-surface roles.

The aircraft comes from a long line of Mikoyan lightweight fighters, such as the MiG-15 and MiG-21. It is about the same size as the MiG-21 (shorter by 1.3m but wider by 4.5m), but noticeably smaller than its immediate predecessor, the MiG-29. Take-off weight is estimated at around 12 tonnes; maximum take-off weight at about 16 tonnes. [1]

In early 2002 Sukhoi was chosen as prime contractor for the planned Russian fifth-generation fighter is called the PAK FA [ Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi - Future Air Complex for Tactical Air Forces]. This intermediate class twin-engined fighter will be larger than a MiG-29 and smaller than a Su-27.

The aircraft will feature a long combat radius, supersonic cruise speed, low radar cross section, supermaneuverability, and the ability to make short takeoffs and landings. In accordance with the technical requirements, the PAK FA will have a normal takeoff weight of 20 tons, which is close to the average normal takeoff weight of the two American airplanes, the F-35 JSF (17.2 tons) and the F-22 (24 tons). The new fighter (a medium version) will have a traditional wing form, though the experience gathered as a result of Berkut's test flights will be taken in consideration when designing the fighter. It is supposed that it will be created using the Stealth technology, and equipped with two AL-41F engines by the Saturn scientific and industrial enterprise, a radar system with an active phased array (to all appearances, it will be produced by the Fazatron-NIIR corporation), and high-precision weapons.

The government commission decided on 26 April 2002 to choose the Sukhoi holding company as the head company to develop and produce the fighter of the fifth generation. The prototype of the PAK FA would take-off in 2006 and that in 2010 the aircraft would be ready for series production. The first deliveries, both for Russian armed forces and for export, would be possible in 2011-12.

The new airplane is being proposed to be brought from the concept design to a prototype series in less than 9 years. Historically, fourth and fifth generation fighters have not been created in less than 15 years. The Russian government has promised to allocate 1.5 billion dollars for the PAK FA through 2010. But the Russian Air Force is receiving less than 200 million dollars a year during this period, and will spend it primarily on other needs.

The prices and sources of funding will determine the destiny of the whole program. To date officials agree that the program will cost $1.5 billion. However, $1.5 billion is the sum needed for creating a new generation of avionics for the fighter (considering the fact that pre-production models of the phased array have already been produced, and will soon be tested). Completion of the AL-41F engine (present readiness is 30 percent) will require, in the opinion of the boss of Rosaviakosmos, 600 - 800 million dollars. Saturn said that launching of production of the AL-41F engine would take $150 million. An improved version of the AL-31F will be used on the aircraft originally (though it is not clear how these heavy motors are reconciled with the concept of a 20-ton fighter). The upgrade of these engines will require expenditures of 1.2-1.5 billion dollars. And finally, designers will have to spend several hundred millions of dollars on creating a new airframe. According to some reports, India and Russia have agreed to jointly develop this fifth-generation fighter, under a scheduled with entery into service in 2009. This would be the first such joint development venture between the two countries. [8]
20 posted on 06/10/2005 11:39:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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