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1 posted on 06/13/2005 10:08:34 AM PDT by jmc813
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Actually the last line should read: Why haven't we left yet?

How many years and billions of dollars need to be thrown at this problem.


2 posted on 06/13/2005 10:23:12 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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the text of this Act:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:2:./temp/~c109AtQQrJ::


3 posted on 06/13/2005 10:24:24 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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The only way we can reform the UN is by leaving the institution.


4 posted on 06/13/2005 10:31:50 AM PDT by econ_grad (The US Constitution presents no significant challenge to the government.)
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"This week Congress will vote on a bill to expand the power of the United Nations beyond the dreams of even the most ardent left-wing, one-world globalists. But this time the UN power grabbers aren’t European liberals; they are American neo-conservatives, who plan to use the UN to implement their own brand of world government."

"Conservatives who have been critical of the UN in the past have enthusiastically embraced this bill and the concept of UN reform."



6 posted on 06/13/2005 10:52:11 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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As a Canadian, I'm anxious to see the conservative/FReeper response to this, specifically regarding this line:

"Conservatives who have been critical of the UN in the past have enthusiastically embraced this bill and the concept of UN reform."
9 posted on 06/13/2005 11:06:15 AM PDT by Stevieboy
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Every ten years, the One Worlders seek to change the United Nations into something really onerous. As a school boy, I fought this nonsense in 1955. It is tantamount to treason, but of course, "none dare call it treason."

For a classic discussion of the whole concept of surrendering sovereignty to a League of Nations, see League of Nations.

The CFR was founded in the early 1920s by those who had backed the Wilsonian effort. The whole purpose of the CFR has been to ensnare us in a powerful international body. The time to stop this assault on our freedom is before it succeeds, not to be forced into a new American Revolution to regain what we are being asked to surrender.

William Flax

13 posted on 06/13/2005 11:21:40 AM PDT by Ohioan
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But this time the UN power grabbers aren’t European liberals; they are American neo-conservatives, who plan to use the UN to implement their own brand of world government.

That's what this whole Bolton thing is about as well. He's made it clear that he wants the UN to be more "effective". Conservatives who see his confirmation as a way of "sticking it to the UN" are sadly mistaken.

19 posted on 06/13/2005 11:49:48 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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I have a wonderful idea. How about we cut off funding either way, whether the UN adopts the reforms or not?


23 posted on 06/13/2005 2:09:26 PM PDT by Zero Sum (Marxism is the opiate of the masses.)
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Next thing ya know they will be advocation silencing critics
and call it 'Campaign Finance Reform'


24 posted on 06/13/2005 5:21:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: pbrown; Coleus; B4Ranch; Paul_Denton; lodwick; texastoo; Kay Ludlow

Have you seen this yet?


27 posted on 06/13/2005 6:14:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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How many opponents of the UN, on this thread, support expanding the Patriot Act? The Bush administration refuses to enforce our borders while telling us that they need more police powers to protect us from terrorists? People call this a conservative forum? Pshaw.
28 posted on 06/13/2005 6:59:22 PM PDT by Nephi ("I am in favor of free trade." - Karl Marx)
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hey ray, hows it going?
did you see this? thought you'd be interested.


30 posted on 06/13/2005 9:35:29 PM PDT by gdc61
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http://www.cfr.org/pub7914/press_release/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.php

http://www.cfr.org/pub8104/press_release/task_force_urges_measures_to_strengthen_north_american_competitiveness_expand_trade_ensure_border_security.php

It's all coming together.


36 posted on 06/14/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Ping to this thread for coincidence value.


37 posted on 06/14/2005 8:34:10 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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DANGER AHEAD!

This is flying under the radar, isn't it. How can it be up for vote without the immensity of the issues becoming front page news?

Is Rush talking about this? Who is?


41 posted on 06/14/2005 10:05:28 AM PDT by Countyline
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"The only true reform of the United Nations is for the US to withdraw immediately."

Hurrah for that.


42 posted on 06/14/2005 10:10:25 AM PDT by Countyline
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What a worthless bunch the gop has turned out to be.

It seems every day they give us more reasons to never support them again.



Vote for gridlock in '06


52 posted on 06/15/2005 3:00:04 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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Does anyone know the bill number for this? I Googled it but no success yet and I have to get ready for work. Thanks!

Carolyn

54 posted on 06/15/2005 3:14:12 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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The only reform we need to see at the UN is an OUTSIDE AUDIT of the entire organization.


57 posted on 06/15/2005 3:30:53 AM PDT by mewzilla
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Reminds me of...

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool."


70 posted on 06/17/2005 8:06:05 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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