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Rising temperature is driving increased carbon dioxide, not vice versa. In any event, man's role in adding carbon dioxide is irrelevant.
1 posted on 06/13/2005 3:41:54 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Goody. We can once again farm Greenland.


2 posted on 06/13/2005 3:43:11 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


3 posted on 06/13/2005 3:53:08 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Rising temperature is driving increased carbon dioxide, not vice versa. In any event, man's role in adding carbon dioxide is irrelevant.

What idiot thought that a trace element of CO2 could have a drastic effect on the climate in the first place!

4 posted on 06/13/2005 3:53:43 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Very clear and concise explanation of global warming science.

Thanks for posting.


7 posted on 06/13/2005 4:24:07 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Loyal Buckeye
It's pure politics one of the biggest scams ever to rob the wealth of successful nations, fill the pockets of UN-NGO elitists along the way, and redistribute the remainder to developing nations who are already polluting more than G7 nations and are exempt from the Kyoto accord, even though they will be polluting even more in the future as they grow. The kyoto accord does NOTHING whatsoever to reduce any of these immagined greenhouse gases. NOTHING!!! But as usual, sheeple are blind to the facts. One day, this scam, after it has robbed every person and nation on the plannet will be exposed, but sheeple have no one to blame but themselves and their leftist (pro- UN world government, run by un-elected elitist tyrants) governments who were in on the scam all along.
8 posted on 06/13/2005 5:04:18 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Just as I learned it in my Geochemistry of Natural Waters course as an undergrad. Sometimes, the old, boring knowledge is the most relevant knowledge. Oh, but it doesn't make for big movies and books by UFOlogists which feed on doomer hysteria ...


9 posted on 06/13/2005 5:17:21 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Science/Global-warming-cyclical-says-climate-expert/2005/06/12/1118514924793.html?oneclick=true

Professor Carter said greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide were not causing the earth to warm up. On both annual and geological (up to 100,000-year) time scales, changes in temperature preceded changes in carbon dioxide, he said. This was true even in the famous 1960-1991 graph showing rising amounts of carbon dioxide.

http://www.junkscience.com/news2/triton.htm

MIT Researcher Finds Evidence Of Global Warming On Neptune's Largest Moon

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. --We're not the only ones experiencing global warming. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology researcher has reported that observations obtained by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope and ground-based instruments reveal that Neptune's largest moon, Triton, seems to have heated up significantly since the Voyager space probe visited it in 1989. The warming trend is causing part of Triton's surface of frozen nitrogen to turn into gas, thus making its thin atmosphere denser.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_weather_000223.html

The receding ice caps on Mars hint at a climatic warming trend. If the caps melted, Smith said, they would cover the planet to a depth of 29.5 feet (9 meters). If concentrated in one place like the northern plains, "that would make a modest-sized ocean."

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You know, it could just be that something bigger than global warming is going on - might by solar system warming, and that won't be caused by your SUV or my lawnmower and BBQ...

10 posted on 06/13/2005 5:21:04 PM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: Loyal Buckeye
This Global Warming theory is so fundamentally flawed, that one only have to have an understanding of what it's like to stand around a campfire to understand, precisely, what's going on.

The "liberal intelligensia" always has to either 1) impress themselves with their own studies or 2) loathe themselves into submission because they are self-hating individuals.

Look at the diagram below (excuse it's novice nature, I'm no graphic artist by any means).

It is a fact that the sun is burning hotter today than it has been burning in the last 8000 years.

If Earth is at the same relative distance to the Sun (which it is and has been FOREVER), then the Sun heats up (which it is), then...TADA! the Earth will heat up.

If you stoke a campfire and you are sitting 5 feet away, what do you do?

Move away usually? But, if you couldn't, your rump would be warm in a hurry, wouldn't it? Of course.

And, ask yourself this question: are you more effected by your internal temperatures or ambient (external) temperatures?

Hmm, no mystery there. If it is 40 out and you are standing out in the cold, you're going to get cold.

Conversely, if it's 110 out, without A/C (or some other cooling apparatus), you're going to get hot...fast.

So, really, what's more plausible, the Earth is warming up because...

A. We are creating internal temperatures to increase by our human like activity. Or,

B. The main heat source for our planet (the Sun) is burning hotter and that --not some mystery flurocarbons, is what's causing it to heat up.

Me? I'm going with B.

11 posted on 06/13/2005 5:43:52 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I have always been suspicious of the use of the Terminology "greenhouse effect". That insidious analogy is responsible for much or the layman's enthusiastic acceptance of the global warming concept. We all have been in a greenhouse ( or opened a car door on a hot summer day)and have experienced the unbearable heat it can generate. This makes us extrapolate this feeling to the earth's atmosphere as gasses supposedly trap light and convert it to heat thereby "warming" the entire earth to unbearable levels just like the greenhouse or closed up car.
The problem with this supposition however, is that the model breaks down, and is not a true analogy of how earth's atmosphere and the sun's rays actually interact. A greenhouse is, by volume of the ratio of its gasses to its solid and liquid material somewhere approaching 4:1 while the ratio of the earth's atmosphere to its land and water masses is on the order of 1:1000. The model that the global warming proponents are using to advance their theory isn't really applicable to the real world. It just doesn't hold water....or heat for that matter. Am I wrong on this?????


12 posted on 06/13/2005 5:50:02 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Loyal Buckeye
It's not Global Warming, it's Ocean Warming
13 posted on 06/13/2005 5:57:28 PM PDT by kabar
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