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To: calcowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach
You're an idiot if you think this is about cowardice to use the veto pen. I'd like to see him do more but that is *NO* reason to scoff at his proposed reforms.

The Paycheck Protection initiative will make it impossible for organized labor to automatically fund their extortion of the state gov't. If this doesn't pass, with the labor agreements under consideration, the STATE will walk right into the pension fiasco for which the rapidly facing bankruptcy San Diego is a model.

Reapportionment gives us a fighting chance to bring the state back under the People's control rather than the inept politicians carving out nice little safe districts for one another in backroom deals. No CA legislative or Congressional office changed parties despite the air of reform among the people. It's a protection racket that needs to be broken.

Keeping school teachers from getting tenure too easily will help us take the schools back from the NEA and their big labor allies.

We must be CAREFUL since a few of the items coming on the Nov ballot are Dem-pushed.

One veto is nothing if the state could return to a Dem governor next year and explode spending, raise taxes across the board, suffocate the returning revenues, the improve business climate and other things which have helped California turn around.

Grow up! Arnold's trying to look at the SYSTEMIC ILLS, not fight brush wars.

59 posted on 06/13/2005 11:54:19 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: newzjunkey
You're an idiot if you think this is about cowardice to use the veto pen.

He has failed to use it to manage spending. (Lack of) action speaks for itself. (The personal insults don't help your argument any.)

I'd like to see him do more but that is *NO* reason to scoff at his proposed reforms.

Every proposed law should be critically evaluated. Sometimes they are good, sometimes bad.

The Paycheck Protection initiative...

I will vote for this. In case you didn't notice, Arnold did not propose this and has yet to endorse it, so it is hardly his proposed reform.

Reapportionment gives us a fighting chance to bring the state back under the People's control rather than the inept politicians carving out nice little safe districts for one another in backroom deals. No CA legislative or Congressional office changed parties despite the air of reform among the people. It's a protection racket that needs to be broken.

I have doubts this will break any racket. And handing over power to a few specially unelected (selected individuals) retired judges is not an improvement, IMO. What have judges done for us lately? It hasn't been positive. The Secretary of the State has already said this cannot be implemented per the schedule defined in the law. Why vote for a law that is not doable as written? Bad law results in future problems.

Keeping school teachers from getting tenure too easily will help us take the schools back from the NEA and their big labor allies.

Maybe, but maybe not. If the NEA and leftists are in charge of the schools, who exactly do you think would be in charge to fire them from their posts? Isn't it more likely that the leftists would be given even more power to eliminate the right thinking teachers who don't go along with the NEA? Regardless, it will also probably increase the teacher shortage we have today. This hardly "puts the kids first."

One veto is nothing if the state could return to a Dem governor next year and explode spending, raise taxes across the board, suffocate the returning revenues, the improve business climate and other things which have helped California turn around.

Who said anything about one veto? Arnold currently has the power of line item veto; it isn't limited to a one-time action. I suggest he should have used it more often to veto useless bills (foie gras?) and those unaffordable bills offered by the leftists. Also, Proposition 58 gave the governor new powers to achieve a balanced budget by suspending the passage of all legislation. Why not use the tools available to him instead of falsely stating that the debt is increasing by billions each year.

Grow up! Arnold's trying to look at the SYSTEMIC ILLS, not fight brush wars.

More insults. How quaint.

73 posted on 06/14/2005 10:05:27 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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