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To: Alia
So this would seem to beg the question, how much money was California receiving from the Feds to subsidize Medical Marijuana?

This wasn't about Federal Medical Marijuana Subsidies (which I'm guessing do not exist). This was about California (and a dozen other States) who went against Federal policy on the issue.

It really didn't concern them all that much as far as I can tell. Look, you've got a bunch of States who think that sick folk who benefit from MJ should not be punished for treating their own illness. Is it part of a bigger push to legalize MJ? Probably, yes. But the Fed isn't having anything of it, even though they endorse legal alcohol, which has killed a lot of people.

It's a sad joke really. If a few hippies stand up and say pot is great, well, that's one thing. But when a dozen states say it probably is beneficial to some patients, well, that is quite another.

You can't compare the consensus of a dozen States to the lone hippie who wants it legalized for recreational use. There was more to it then that.

IMO, I wouldn't doubt that it does help patients with nausea and vomiting, as well as increasing appetite. Your mileage may vary. It made my brother puke his guts out. I never experienced that with it though.

Shouldn't it be left to the individual though? Who are they harming? It's a far stretch to say that they are going to effect Federal Commerce by growing a plant and smoking it for their own private medicinal purposes, as the Supreme Court has surmised.

To me the dumbest thing is to even worry about it (a virtually unenforceable law). If you're sick, need pot to help, good grief, buy some and smoke it and keep quiet about it. Why would you insist on the stamp of approval from Government? They will just make it cost more in the long run.
35 posted on 06/15/2005 7:40:22 PM PDT by planekT (Go DeLay, Go!)
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To: planekT
This wasn't about Federal Medical Marijuana Subsidies (which I'm guessing do not exist). This was about California (and a dozen other States) who went against Federal policy on the issue.

planekT: There are pesky little details of which the "State" knows; but most citizens appear not to: For example: If you, a private school, privately owned on private lands, covering health care, lawsuit liability ins, etc. take ONE PENNY of Federal "largess" to "cover" your school -- you are then subject to the entire leviathan of FEDERAL RULES.

However, *if* that particular "private" household.. was using a fed/state health system, like Medicaid/Medicare. Or was receiving a food "subsidy"; or a welfarian "gift" of the Feds.. they can be subject to FEDERAL LAWS -- all of 'em. Just ask any subsidized farmer, for example.

Just ask homeschooling families. They know the tricks the pro-NEA types play. Even tho homeschooling is legal in CA, for example, pub ed district administrators tried playing games (or were simply ignorant of the laws): They tried telling parents that they, the parents, since they were homeschooling were going to be visited by a bevy of "bureacrats". That is, fire inspection, Health Inspection, ADA inspectors (I'm not joshing you).. etc. While it wasn't true; and it certainly wasn't enforceable, what people don't know is gamed by government bureacracies trying to grow their own "legion".

If you wish to smoke pot in CA, for medical reasons say, simply ENSURE you do not take a penny -- not a penny -- of Federal subsidy. Not in your health care. Not in your children's schools, not in your housing.

That's the way STATE RIGHTS WORKS BEST.

I would posit, however, that if you did statistical analysis of the "states" who hate President Bush's "No Child Left Behind Act", you'd find schools in that state heavily reliant upon FEDERAL dollars for operation.

And there, IMHO, is the rightful truth behind all the bashing of "No Child Left Behind". Before this act, schools took Fed Subsidies at will -- and there was NO ACCOUNTABILITY. Instead, those "dissenters" chose to attack why and how the "act" wasn't productive for their "particular" culture (location) of school. The point is; Federal law has other requirements besides "every child can read".. and this is what royally peeved misguided liberal TEACHERS, on the subject of "No Child Left Behind".

My solution? What I've continued to suggest, over the years, to those teachers, private citizens, etc., who hate the "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT" -- petition your schools to HALT any Federal Funding.

The sheer magnitude of whining, and whiplash I've received in response to my simple suggestion has made me grateful that I have a flexible spine; and the ability to "let go" when dealing with people who "refuse to see".

On another subject; there are socialist groups working very hard to undermine how States Rights and Federal Law work together to balance, not only the budget, but to hold the Union of the United States of America together. Story for another time.

59 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:34 PM PDT by Alia
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