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Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism is Corrupting Our Future;(Ben Shapiro's startling new book)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | JUNE 15, 2005 | Maribeth Armitage

Posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:04 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Lindykim
"with each self-worshipper demanding to be the center of the universe."

In French, such a terrible condition, is called "Egotism a Deux". The narcissistic pool is not always big enough for one person in such a relationship.
61 posted on 06/16/2005 5:41:01 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: CHARLITE

"Loaded with quality conservative sarcasm, "

I guess Shapiro decided he needed sarcasm to sell his book to the Coulter crowd, but my guess is that same sarcasm will turn off the folks he really needs to reach with his book. IMO, sarcasm doesn't win converts. It might be amusing to the already converted at times, but it often just comes off as juvenile.


62 posted on 06/16/2005 5:44:19 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Aquinasfan

There are other positive indicators...

use of hard drugs, according to surveys, is down among high school students. High school drop out rates have declined.

If I had the time I could think up and google a dozen other indicators. My argument, however, is simple. The country isn't going to hell in a handbasket. There's an ebb and flow to these things.


63 posted on 06/16/2005 5:55:48 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: qam1
From the article:

He argues that youth cling to “gangsta’ rap” because it “distances them from their parents, and in some sense, serves as a rejection of their parents’ culture and their race itself.”

Uhhhh, gee, young people trying to distance themselves from their parents.....who woulda thunk it. Not exactly ground-breaking stuff here.

64 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:31 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: CHARLITE
Thanks for the post. I plan to buy Shapiro's book.

It is incredible that while it is okay to have laws against prostitution (and I agree with it), the Supremes declared that pron - prostitution with an audience - should be legal. Another example that judges have close to unlimited power.

BTW, another good book is Nancy Grace's OBJECTION!

65 posted on 06/16/2005 7:39:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Donald Meaker
Bet they will be so proud, especially about that page with the dog.

Not have seen the book, I can only guess.

66 posted on 06/16/2005 7:43:44 AM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: durasell; Aquinasfan
There are other positive indicators...

See the links in post #33

Or these hard core stats

 Violent crime rate has declined through the 1990's, as well as The pregnancy rate for unmarried women has continuously declined through the 1990s and the abortion rate dropped by about 25 percent for both married and unmarried women through the 1990s , The teen Pregnancy Rate Reached a Record Low, More Teenagers are saying no to sex and Drug use by teenagers continues to decline.

Ignore what you see in the media, the pendulum is swinging the other way

The article in the link says it best

Wave away the colored smoke of the Jackson family circus, Paris Hilton, and the antics of San Francisco, and you can see how Americans have been self-correcting from a decades-long experiment with “alternative values.”

67 posted on 06/16/2005 7:57:32 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Wave away the colored smoke of the Jackson family circus, Paris Hilton, and the antics of San Francisco, and you can see how Americans have been self-correcting from a decades-long experiment with “alternative values.”


I don't believe that. The pendulum swings one way and then the other.


68 posted on 06/16/2005 8:09:23 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: ken21

There seems to be this overwhelming belief that we are headed for the sewer.
I disagree. I believe that as long as science continues to prove that there is no gay gene and that a human life begins sooner rather than later, we as Republicans can make a convincing case.


69 posted on 06/16/2005 8:09:24 AM PDT by mowkeka
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To: Incorrigible
True enough but we were young'ns then, I think most were there more just to be a part of something as opposed to being devastated at the loss of Generational leader.

Just compare since then the yearly gatherings on the anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death with the yearly gatherings for anniversary of John Lenin's death.

I can't picture down the road when we are in our 50's & 60's many Gen-Xers still holding vigils for Kurt Cobain as the baby boomers still do for John Lenin.

Plus, Look how many Xers showed up at Regan's funeral, Now there was a generational leader

70 posted on 06/16/2005 8:10:02 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: little jeremiah
Or maybe you mean the people in Hollywood determining that we must indeed view execrable obscenity, vile language, and offensiveness of every description as the daily fare that passes for entertainment?

If you look in your TV remote, there are buttons to change the channel and even turn the television off.

Nobody is required to watch offensive television programming. If people were not interested in trashy television, it would not be on the air.

71 posted on 06/16/2005 8:11:22 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: little jeremiah
If you don't like abortion, don't have one.

Abortion harms the rights of the unborn child. Not comparable to "sleaze."

If you don't like methamphetimine, don't smoke/inject/snort it.

I agree. It is not the government's job to protect people from their own stupidity.

If you don't like spousal abuse, don't practice it.

Assaulting another person is a violation of their rights. Government has been granted the power to protect rights. Again, not comparable.

If you don't like porn shops on the road where your kids walk to school, have them walk a different route.

There is no right not to be offended by the sight of legal businesses that you dissaprove of. Should a Mormon have the right to demand that their children not be exposed to the sight of liquor stores? Do Jews have the right to demand that their kids not be exposed to the sight of a pig roast?

Even if, for instance, one set of parents carefully monitor what their kids watch, a bunch of other kids don't have such careful parents.

And the solution to this is what? More government control over how parents raise their kids?

72 posted on 06/16/2005 8:28:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: mowkeka

i agree with you.

it's a truism of history that every generation thinks that its era is "going to hell in a hand basket."

my remarks above were unclear. i think the boomer generation was given a lot by this country, but the boomer leftists, and the communist predecessors and successors in the media and universities, have given back little in return. they turned this country against the vietnam war and they are trying to do the same now with iraq. now, that is evil.


73 posted on 06/16/2005 8:31:56 AM PDT by ken21
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To: CHARLITE
The word missing is HYPOCRITE.

So many celebs and others...do what they want, when they want. And then later, feel like they can pontificate to the rest of us. Ozzy, Madonna, the others, all of their credibility and integrity could fit in thimble.

74 posted on 06/16/2005 8:33:31 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: little jeremiah
I have never read "60%". But I have read that of first marriages, quite a bit less than 50% fail; what brings up the average of failure is the fact that those who divorce and re-marry often divorce and re-marry again, sometimes several times.

When I was younger, before I was married, I used to have an unspoken rule that I did not want to date girls from divorced families. It was not a hard and fast rule, but I think is has some basis. One girl I dated had both parents on 3rd marriages. Her idea of sticking it out though tough times was not quite the same as mine - and how could it be, you are a product of your upbringing.

75 posted on 06/16/2005 8:36:50 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: little jeremiah
Porn shops and strip clubs must be allowed in areas even if the people living there don't want them.

You keep repeating this claim, but it is not consistent with current Supreme Court decisions on the matter. Communities have the power to greatly limit where adult businesses operate. SCOTUS has upheld, IIRC, zoning restrictions that excluded adult businesses from something like 95% of a community's territory.

And what have they been replaced with? A situation where even if the majority of people want very much, and vote for, or their elected representatives vote for some kind of restriction on, say, what level of disgusting obscentity or sexually explicit stuff should be allowed in some particular venue, a couple of judges in black robes, assisted by lawyers from the ACLU, tell the citizenry what must be.

Example, please. AFAIK, public indecency is still illegal pretty much everywhere in this country.

76 posted on 06/16/2005 8:37:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: mowkeka
I believe that as long as science continues to prove that there is no gay gene

I'm not sure how this is relevant to the conservative position. Whether or not homosexuality is genetic shouldn't change the conservative position on such things as gay marriage.

77 posted on 06/16/2005 8:50:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: CHARLITE
Shapiro looks with disdain at the careers of pop idols Madonna; the former-Mouseketeers-turned-Madonna-wannabes Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera; and newest Disney “pop tarts” Hillary Duff (who hasn’t sold out yet) and Lindsay Lohan (who has).

My father has told me stories about how his father used to call Lana Turner a slut for wearing those sweaters of hers (no self-respecting woman would do such a thing) and told my father to shut off that hooligan music of Benny Goodman (especially Sing Sing Sing, my grandfather would go nuts...it was banned in the house...the only respectable music then was operettas).

The more things change the more they stay the same.
78 posted on 06/16/2005 8:55:13 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Modernman

In my very small rural town, a porn shop opened on the main street, where lots of high school and middle school kids walk to and from school. You wouldn't believe all the letters to the editor, people arguing at the town meeting or whatever it's called. The mayor said there was nothing in state law that could stop the shop. So there it is - with kids walking by it all the time.

No, there hasn't been a referendum in this little town, but judging by the letters, the majority of people here did not want that porn shop in the middle of a very small downtown. Yet there it is, courtesy of the ACLU and a bunch of jackass judges.


79 posted on 06/16/2005 9:27:43 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah

No doubt it will be out of business in months since nobody is going to patronize it...


80 posted on 06/16/2005 9:29:12 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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