Posted on 06/16/2005 5:24:12 AM PDT by SLB
Thank you.
FYI
We started a Wednesday night study on Christianity and today's cultural last night. This was one of the hand outs we received. Glad our church adheres to this type of doctrine.
Wow! BTTT! Thanks.
I wonder how Peggy could tell the pregnant high schooler wasn't married? Or did she just assume it?
My mother was pregnant with me when she graduated from high school, but she was married to my dad, who was drafted for Korea. Despite the fact that she was 1) married, and 2) had the highest GPA in the graduating class, they not only didn't let her be valedictorian, she couldn't come on stage to pick up her diploma.
Peggy might think that was a better way of doing things, but I don't.
Indeed!
Ultimately, however, I suspect our minister will not take Mohler's stand. This is beginning to worry me.
I would imagine your mother knew before she married your dad that she would not be allowed to participate in the ceremonies and accepted it. Now, the ACLU and a host of other liberal activities would try to convince her the system was trampling on her rights.
You might even say it's "Gone With The Wind"....
Might be time to start looking around. We were members of a mainstream denomination (PCUSA) and when they went off the deep end we bailed to a interdenominational church that is firmly rooted in scripture.
You are right to worry about your minister. "Our" response is always sinful without God. The minister has framed the question in such a way that it puts "you" as God. To frame the issue in Christian terms, the issue should be God's response as found in scripture. Our sinful natures will always turn away from God.
But just don't cut in front of them in line.
Moral relativism has so shaped the culture that the vast majority of Americans now see themselves as their own moral arbiter.In those instances where we do no direct harm to other individuals, that's our perogative in a free society.
Most cultural libertarians have no problem with cultural competition. Our objection begins and ends with laws intended to promote one version of morality. Invariably, that is the goal of those who decry our current culture.
-Eric
Or that an abortion would be necessary.
Our objection begins and ends with laws intended to promote one version of morality.
I assume you see no contradiction.
I am not exactly sure what the author means by the highlighted phrase above, but I think the author means "insulating" those who deny or ignore "the truth" from the disaster of the consequences those decisions will include which may even be death.
The bottomline is Christian's over the years have voted for politicians that have created a government safety net system that insulates fellow citizens who do not follow the truth from experiencing the hardship of their actions and subsequently, others adopt that same behavior because there is no negative consequence.
If you want the "cultural crisis" to go away, quit subsidizing it.
How many union member, Catholics voted for Democrats to be U.S. Senators during the 1950's and 1960's who then confirmed the judges that gave us Roe v. Wade?
A lot.
How many U.S. Jews did the same thing as the Catholics for the reason of getting U.S. dollars to Isreal?
A lot.
How many black citizens voted for Democrats as U.S. Senators who then confirmed the judges that gave us Roe v. Wade in order to get a expand the welfare state?
A lot.
And you are surprised by the sudden change in the U.S. culture to the culture of death?
Well, you're wrong about that. I can't even imagine what would motivate such a stance.
BTW, I was pregnant when I graduated -- from law school, and I got a lot of cheers, myself. It is something to be proud of, regardless of whether you're 18, as my mother was, or 34, as I was. Like my mother, I not only finished, I excelled.
And yes, if you try to keep a pregnant woman from participating in a graduation ceremony, I'd be tickled pink to sue you so fast your head will spin, and I'll kick your ass up one side of the courtroom and down the other. ;^)
I guess that language makes you a big girl? Sad to see it, but you are a prime example of being a product of the society you grew up in.
My guess is that you stand on your curb with your children and encourage those recklessly speeding through your neighborhood just in case one out of a thousand drivers is rushing an injured child to the hospital.
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