Posted on 06/16/2005 9:01:37 AM PDT by hocndoc
The complete article is available for free on line at http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/352/24/2471
There is also an audio of an interview with Charo at
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/352/24/2471/DC1
There is no disclosure that Professor Charo is an outspoken and well-traveled advocate for abortion, cloning, and embryonic stem cell experiments. She was on a panel covering the legal issues of cloning and embryonic stem cell research this past weekend in Houston. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420130/posts http://www.genpol.org/
She was also quoted in a recent MSNBC/Newsweek article, "Ethics, Eggs and Embryos," concerning the donation of oocytes for cloning for embryonic stem cells. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8185339/site/newsweek/
This editorial is an excellent example of her work: she immediately jumps to the conclusion that religion and right wing politics are at the base of conscience laws and assumes that her views are the only correct views, with basis in fact and law rather than personally held beliefs (i.e., religion by another name):
""" Finally, there is the awesome scale and scope of the abortion wars. In the absence of legislative options for outright prohibition, abortion opponents search for proxy wars, using debates on research involving human embryos, the donation of organs from anencephalic neonates, and the right of persons in a persistent vegetative state to die as opportunities to rehearse arguments on the value of biologic but nonsentient human existence."""
I agree with R. Alta Charo's opinion, as implied by her objection to conscience clauses within State and Federal laws, that mere legality does not make any act "right." However, I disagree with her conclusion that these laws are politically motivated, limited to those who belong to the specific religions she names, or that the refusal of medical professionals to participate in killing members of our species is a recent innovation.
The most ancient (pagan, Greek) recorded code of medical ethics called upon medical professionals to "First, do no harm" and prohibited the deliberate ending of human life. This code has been reaffirmed in the Nuremberg Code, the Declaration of Helsinki, and the United Nations' International Declaration of Human Rights. History has repeatedly shown us the result of discrimination, whether legal or not, between members of our species when following this code.
Professor Charo appeals to morality - the discernment between right and wrong acts - whether explicitly or not. Upon what does she base her morals which cause her to travel about the country advocating for cloning and other means of obtaining embryonic stem cells? And why is she not a "moral busybod(y)" in her desire for consequences for those who violate her idea of professionalism?
Gentlemen, please ping your lists.
Doctors: please consider writing the editors of the NEJM at comments@nejm.org about this latest misuse of their editorial discretion.
What does it say about a persons character when they find an act of conscience an evil bad thing when it is used to save a life or refuse to take part in a prceedure which is at odds with ones personal,religious beliefs.<p. Do we hold a gun to a Doctors head and make him/her perform an abortion.
here's those links, again:
The "Perspective" piece, with free access to full text:
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/352/24/2471
The free audio interview on NEJM:
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/352/24/2471/DC1
Last week's FR thread on an embryonic stem cell advocacy summit, which hosted not only Charo, but Dr Hwang (Doctor of Veterinary Medicine), who has done the famous experiments in cloning humans:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420130/posts
The sponsoring organization for the Summit:
http://www.genpol.org/
Newsweek article on donation of human eggs (oocytes) for use in cloning to produce embryonic stem cells, in which Charo states that she is willing to donate her oocytes to the cause (well, why doesn't she?):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8185339/site/newsweek/
Doctors under HilleryCare will have to become what the Firemen were in Fahrenheit 451.
I can save everyone the trouble of reading this. His position is that refusing to kill your patient is tyranny. Refusing to perform an abortion is "legalized discrimination". Obeying your conscience is "exploiting your position".
Moreover, should all doctors provide Botox treatments, and should every pharmacist fill every prescription for addictive, controlled substances? (Pharmacists routinely confiscate suspected forged 'scripts for these drugs, contact the doctor about them, and even call the doctor(s) to let them know when someone is filling multiple scripts from various doctors.)
Do we want doctors, nurses, and pharmacists who regularly practice the suppression of their consciences?
mark for later read.
Ms. Charo forgets that rights belong to individuals, and that societies and governments are only as powerful as they are by the collective use of those individual rights.
She also conveniently forgets that abortionists and sellers of "emergency contraception" do not want legal or malpractice consequences of their acts, either.
Precisely.
I wonder what her opinion is of psychiatrists who choose to refrain from treating homosexuals seeking to change to heterosexuality?
We can guess that she is in favor of this sort of discrimination.
Who can be surprised - after all, she's willing to kill people to get what she wants.
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Though I'm sure almost every doctor, nurse and pharmacist using the conscience clause believes it's better for their patient to avoid being a victim of abortion, this section shows why They Just Don't Get It. The medical professionals making these choices are doing so because they believe they would be party to murder, and if they thought it would benefite their patients, they would make the same choice.
This is just an extention of the HMO mndset. The Docs have allowed themselves to become straightjacketed by outsiders. I know, my Doc has to get approval for ANY little thing he does for me. We may be vey close to the bottom of this slippery slop.
The author states,
"And perhaps most crucial, to what extent do professionals have a collective duty to ensure that their profession provides nondiscriminatory access to all professional services? "
Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Amendment XIII pretty well sums it up on this question of whether a "professional" has the right to withhold "services" for whatever reason.
Are they demanding to keep their principles and their job too?
If an employer requires something of you that you find is against your principles, you have the right to leave that employment. To stay would be unprincipled. Perhaps one could start a company of their own where one is not required to sacrifice their principles in the performance of their job. That would be the principled thing to do. The American thing in fact.
Thank you. Great info.
The question is who do licensed professionals work for?
Many health professionals are self-employed.
Even those who are employed by corporations are *professionals* and citizens. We have a duty to do the right thing. It is not a defense to say "I was just following orders." Remember not only the Nuremberg trials, but the way we look at those doctors who performed lobotomies on women such as the Kennedy daughter and the doctors who were complicit with managed care's refusal of hospitalizations, surgeries and tests.
I hear ya doc. Couldn't agree more.
I started performing contract computer consulting so that I could dictate the ethics of the business in which I was involved. Starved for the first couple of years. Then started making good money, did my best work, never lost a minutes sleep over it.
IBM then offered me more than twice as much money, to do the same work for them. WHOA! Opportunities to more than double your pay don't come along every day, even in the tech biz. So I joined IBM.
What I discovered though, was that you had to adopt their ethics. My ethics were, provide the best solution you can, and get as much as you can for it. IBM's ethics were, get as much money as you can, as fast as you can, and do only that which is required to get it.
After 6 months with IBM, I left. They forced on me a decision; between the Christian morals and ethics that become more important to me every day, and the additional $85,000 I was making with IBM. No contest.
So I'm back to making a lot less money, doing the best work I can, and honoring my Christian vows. Couldn't be happier with my choice
I believe that is the way principles are suppose to work.
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