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To: RuthannaK

And if there is a good treaty basis for the claim, the Indians will win, too.

Tibikak ishkwata!
The night is passing!

Of course, the Indians don't REALLY want all that land. What they want is some of it on which to build the casino, and concessions to allow the casino to be built. The price of making the Indians go away and uncloud a lot of titles of very well-heeled owners will be to simply give them what they want, which is really only a portion of what they have asked for.

What they really want is for the state to get out of the way, let them open and operate their casino, and a plot of land to do it.

The state and the town, of course, characteristically resist everything. Therefore, the club has to be brought out: treaties and Federal courts and lots and lots of private citizens in a tony area facing clouds on title. This usually breathes sense into the states and causes them to come to the bargaining table.

And at the end of the day, the tribe will get its casino of fair terms, with profit sharing with the community. Everyone wins, and we already know the outcome. Why we have to go through the fight every time is a puzzlement.
Usually it is because states are arrogant, and locals in rich areas think that they are going to be able to parley their wealth into political clout to beat the Indians and treaties in Federal courts. It never works.

Sit down, smoke the peace pipe and make a deal now.
It's less expensive and stressful for everyone that way.


10 posted on 06/16/2005 10:32:17 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Tibikak ishkwata!)
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To: Vicomte13

The Shinnecocks are as Indian as the Pequots in Connecticut...they are mostly black (the Indian blood is very little)

This is all about the fact that the owner of the Detroit Tigers wants to build a casino near NYC on Shinnecock land.


24 posted on 06/16/2005 10:40:24 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Vicomte13
Usually it is because states are arrogant, and locals in rich areas think that they are going to be able to parley their wealth into political clout to beat the Indians and treaties in Federal courts. It never works.

The Santee Sioux tried almost everything, from lawsuits to outright defiance of the law, to set up a casino here in Nebraska. They lost. And they had legal standing as a tribe.

Sit down, smoke the peace pipe and make a deal now. It's less expensive and stressful for everyone that way.

immediate surrender really is the first option for you guys, isn't it? :-)

66 posted on 06/16/2005 11:51:41 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Vicomte13

This has been tried before in IL. I don't know the outcome. Supposedly no new casino licenses have been issued though and Kankakee county has not been depopulated of white people. But the people who live on the land are not arrogant rich white people. They're just ordinary people.


73 posted on 06/16/2005 8:09:46 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Vicomte13

I think your assessment is exactly correct.


118 posted on 06/19/2005 1:01:23 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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