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To: UglyinLA
why didnt you come dressed in a breechclout and mocasins. Oh yeah, dont forget the feather headdress and the tomahawk.

Oh good, stereotypes to boot. Anybody want to offer actual arguments about the issue of the young man's natural rights being infringed upon instead of making snide comments about the young man's heritage?

59 posted on 06/16/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

"Oh good, stereotypes to boot. Anybody want to offer actual arguments about the issue of the young man's natural rights being infringed upon instead of making snide comments about the young man's heritage?"

The young man didn't argue the issue in terms of natural rights. He pulled the race card right off the bat and used the lame "heritage" argument. That doesn't get you much sympathy in this forum.
As a long time non-conformer, I think the bolo rule is stupid, but if you want to openly defy the school don't demand an apology if you get caught. Finding clever ways around stupid rules is an art form.


74 posted on 06/16/2005 1:01:03 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: billbears
Anybody want to offer actual arguments about the issue of the young man's natural rights being infringed upon instead of making snide comments about the young man's heritage?

OK, how about these arguments:

a) You implied in an earlier post that this violated his 1st Amendment rights. Unless the ceremony dress code was established via a law passed by congress, that statement is absurd and highlights your ignorance of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
b) Unless you can demonstrate that the dress code either was not enforced or reasonably wouldn't have been enforced in the same situation involving a white student, then the racial argument is de facto invalid.
c) A claim that an item (in this case a bolo tie) is a symbol of one's heritage is not sufficient cause to demand relief from the norms and conventions required by decorum. One must be able to demonstrate not only that his claim is factual but also that being denied the privilege of wearing the item forces the individual to sustain actual harm. To my knowledge, nothing in Cherokee heritage supports the bolo tie as being a historical talisman that is required for their well-being.
d) Familiarity in the form of past use of an item does not have any bearing on the dress code of a special event. Therefore, just because he was allowed to wear the bolo in the past under other circumstances is an argument without logical basis.

Are those arguments more to your liking?

78 posted on 06/16/2005 1:15:24 PM PDT by Antonello
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