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Durbin tried to rewrite his quote last night.
Senate Rocord [Page: S6716] ^ | 6-16-05 | Dick Durbin

Posted on 06/17/2005 6:15:18 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

(6-16) Mr. DURBIN. What I have said is, if you were asked, without being told where this might have occurred, as I said here directly in the RECORD, you might conclude that it was done by one of those repressive regimes because that was the kind of heavy-handed tactic they used, the kind of inhumane treatment in which they engaged. You would be surprised to learn that according to the FBI, it was something that occurred at Guantanamo in a facility under the control of the United States of America.


WRONG!!

Anyone see the word "MIGHT" in his original quote?


(6-14) Durbin: "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 109th; bigfatliar; durbin; durbinladen; quotes; turbandurbin; turnbandurbin
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I knew I heard him try and backpedal by slipping in "might" last night!
1 posted on 06/17/2005 6:15:18 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

PING....

I was right....


2 posted on 06/17/2005 6:16:19 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

A VERY good and important catch, Oxen.


3 posted on 06/17/2005 6:16:19 AM PDT by Peach
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To: OXENinFLA

and the first crack in the dam appears.


4 posted on 06/17/2005 6:18:09 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: OXENinFLA

"Turbin" Durbin should be thrown in Gitmo, given a complementary Koran and a continnental breakfast and locked up for a lng time. jmo


5 posted on 06/17/2005 6:19:28 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: OXENinFLA

I got a kick out of his attempt to blame it all on the "right wing media".


6 posted on 06/17/2005 6:19:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Tomorrow he'll say that he might have said might yesterday.


7 posted on 06/17/2005 6:20:18 AM PDT by palmer (If you see flies at the entrance to the burrow, the ground hog is probably inside)
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To: OXENinFLA

Durbin and the Dems are TOAST ... And they know it


8 posted on 06/17/2005 6:20:19 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: OXENinFLA

great catch!


9 posted on 06/17/2005 6:20:30 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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To: cripplecreek
I got a kick out of his attempt to blame it all on the "right wing media".

Yea .. he thinks WE should apologize for what HE said

10 posted on 06/17/2005 6:21:53 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: OXENinFLA

Great catch.

I watched him last evening trying to get around it. Good for Warner, McConnell, and Sessions smacking him down.


11 posted on 06/17/2005 6:22:00 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: OXENinFLA
Is there a video or wave file of his statement online? The last time I heard it on television, I could have sworn when he got to the end sentence: "This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners," that he stumbled and started saying "our prisoners" and then changed it to "their prisoners."

Can anyone else verify this for me?

Was using the word "our" a Freudian slip on Durbin's part? Could be since it seems that he's more concerned with the treatment of the enemy than he is of anything else.

12 posted on 06/17/2005 6:24:40 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: OXENinFLA
"The Durbin Award"

"The Durbin Award" is established this date and will be awarded annually to the lowest POS treasonous bastard who holds public office in our fair land.

Fashioned in the likeness of Benedict Arnold on one side and the sleaze Durbin on the other, this miniature statuette is sculpted out of various forms of dung and is kept frozen 24/7 except on "Durbin Day", the day the POS is displayed and awarded to the newest POS to win the award.

13 posted on 06/17/2005 6:25:45 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for pointing this out!!
I'm glad I can keep this in mind as I listen to the MSM spinning this.
14 posted on 06/17/2005 6:26:13 AM PDT by syriacus (Did Margaret Hassan "disappear" because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to help Iraqis?)
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To: OXENinFLA
I was right....

Never had a moment's doubt :)

15 posted on 06/17/2005 6:27:30 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: OXENinFLA

Slimey, yellow little traitor. Now he is going to try and weasle his way out of it by telling us what he DIDN'T SAY and it is right there where it was heard and recorded. Sorry durby...we ALL heard what you said. He said what he said and he meant what he said.

IMPEACH DURBIN. IMPEACH DURBIN. He does not deserve to sit in that seat one minute longer.

There is no other option!!!! Remove him from his post for COMPARING our military men and women NAZIS!


16 posted on 06/17/2005 6:27:50 AM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: OXENinFLA
Bashing our men and women in uniform is something that comes naturally to democrats.

No one should ever forget that.

He did everything but use the words, Jengis Khan........

17 posted on 06/17/2005 6:28:59 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: baseballmom
McConnell's attempt to "smack him down" was quite feeble. McConnell alleged that Durbin's remarks were based on "this one incident" which is manifestly false. At least 10 prisoners have died at Gitmo and in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of torture, murder, and harsh treatment by U.S. troops.

Sen. McConnell doesn't have the integrity or guts to admit that at least 10 deaths amount to more than one little incident.

18 posted on 06/17/2005 6:29:08 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: OXENinFLA

(6-16-2005) DURBIN: "What I have said is, if you were asked, without being told where this might have occurred, as I said here directly in the RECORD, you might conclude that it was done by one of those repressive regimes because that was the kind of heavy-handed tactic they used, the kind of inhumane treatment in which they engaged. You would be surprised to learn that according to the FBI, it was something that occurred at Guantanamo in a facility under the control of the United States of America.

(6-14-2005) DURBIN: "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

EXCELLENT POST OXEN!


19 posted on 06/17/2005 6:29:12 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: Mo1

Last night I was struck by an odd thought that seems to work for me.

The democrats remind me of the chimpanzee (General Thade?) in the 2001 planet of the apes flick when he realizes that his power is slipping away. He went totally insane and ran the gammut of emotions from rage to bargaining to begging back to rage throwing himself screaming against the wall.


20 posted on 06/17/2005 6:30:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: MurryMom

Long time no see, MM.


21 posted on 06/17/2005 6:30:08 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: OXENinFLA
Durbin's comments (like those from the most democrats) served ONLY to give 'aid-and-comfort' to our enemies during time of war. This puts him squarely in the middle of anti-American rhetoric of his party.

Since the state of Illinois continues to move EVER FURTHER from the mainstream of middle America (reference it's two Democratic senators and it's current status as a SOLD BLUE STATE in Presidential elections--Durbin's outrageous comments actually DO reflect the liberal consensus in this liberal state--which continues its steady movement further to the far left.

It's so sad that even now--he refuses to see and acknowledge how harmful his comments are to those serving our country in uniform. So sad.

22 posted on 06/17/2005 6:32:12 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: OXENinFLA
Great catch!
He is digging his hole deeper and deeper by backpedaling and not apologizing!IMO
23 posted on 06/17/2005 6:32:29 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: OXENinFLA

Great catch. These liberal idiots always have some BS stunt up there sleeve when they get called on something they did.


24 posted on 06/17/2005 6:32:43 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Nice catch.


25 posted on 06/17/2005 6:32:51 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: MurryMom

Are you saying that "At least 10 prisoners have died at Gitmo?"

We are talking about Gitmo here, are we not?

How many prisoners have died at Gitmo?


26 posted on 06/17/2005 6:32:58 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: OXENinFLA

It doesn't matter if he throws the word might in there, it's still an outrageous statement. ESAD Durbin!


27 posted on 06/17/2005 6:33:06 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: baseballmom

and MORE pubbies should have standed up with power and strength in their voices and not just a slap on the wrist from McClellan. I like McClellan but in this instance we needed Ari.


28 posted on 06/17/2005 6:33:52 AM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: MurryMom

In fact, NO prisoners have died at Guantanamo (NONE), but the Pentagon has acknowledged five instances of abuse or irreverent handling of the Koran, the holy book of Muslims.


29 posted on 06/17/2005 6:35:44 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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It's obvious to me, that
Durbin is downplaying the very real sufferings of the people in Nazi Germany

Next step?...Durbin denies the Holocaust?

30 posted on 06/17/2005 6:35:48 AM PDT by syriacus (Did Margaret Hassan "disappear" because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to help Iraqis?)
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To: OXENinFLA

Nice catch BUMP!!


31 posted on 06/17/2005 6:35:55 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: OXENinFLA

I wonder why it is not reported (coff coff) in the lame stream media is what those terrorists at Gitmo try to do to the guards. Why doesn't someone report on the feces under the fingernails of the prisoners that they try to scratch the guards with. Why doesn't someone report on the attempts to bite and otherwise compromise the guards. Why doesn't anyone besides Rush tell us how well the terrorists are fed. My husband wished he could eat so well.............


32 posted on 06/17/2005 6:36:23 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: OldFriend
The MSM is a matrix... a 24/7, fraudulent charade played on the American sheeple. Fair is foul... and foul is fair. There is no right... no wrong... only wonderous shades of PINK!
33 posted on 06/17/2005 6:36:44 AM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Excellent catch. Maybe someone should start a clock to see how long it takes for any, and I mean any, Democrat to condemn these remarks.


34 posted on 06/17/2005 6:37:38 AM PDT by Chuck54 (If there had never been a 9/11, there would have been no Gitmo.)
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bttt


35 posted on 06/17/2005 6:37:54 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: cripplecreek
Your analogy works well.

The Democrats really have come unhinged.

36 posted on 06/17/2005 6:38:31 AM PDT by syriacus (Did Margaret Hassan "disappear" because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to help Iraqis?)
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To: OXENinFLA

dick turban doesn't even have the strength of his own stupid convictions ... what a sissy ... what a girly-man


37 posted on 06/17/2005 6:39:14 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: MurryMom

I always count on a Leftist to make false allegations.

Thanks for being so dependable.


38 posted on 06/17/2005 6:39:38 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: MurryMom

If you believe that you are a complete idiot!


39 posted on 06/17/2005 6:40:15 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: OXENinFLA
"Durbin tried to rewrite his quote last night."

I tried to rewrite Durbin's name, last night and this is what came out... "Senator Turd-bin".

40 posted on 06/17/2005 6:42:17 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (undecorated and proud. God Bless our troops and their Families.)
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To: gitmogrunt

I am going with . . .

SENATOR Dick bin Turd!


41 posted on 06/17/2005 6:43:59 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: OXENinFLA
since the 'report' itself is unsubstantiated, turban-durbin is full of crap and irrelevant...

...maybe its that time of the month for him?

42 posted on 06/17/2005 6:46:11 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: cripplecreek; OXENinFLA; Mo1; baseballmom; syriacus; OldFriend; cubreporter; martin_fierro
The b*stard Durbin is worried about "the barefoot detainee" who was cold. Awww!

Let's make the "barefoot detainee" feel better. Turn off the rap music, and give him silver napkin rings at his next meals.

***

Then lets move Gitmo to northern Alaska!!!

43 posted on 06/17/2005 6:46:49 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: MurryMom
Define 'torture'. Maybe John McCain can help.

The fact is that NO prisoners have been killed or died at Gitmo... And 10 out of how many thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq? The Nazis and communists set out to systematically kill MILLIONS, and accomplished their goals quite eficientally.

You neobolsheviks in this country are so blinded for your hatred of this President that you either a)have no sense of perspective or b)you believe every bit of the marxist propaganda that is thrown at you.

I've followed your idiocy on this forum for years, and you confirm one medical fact. A person can survive for extended periods of time with only a brain stem.

44 posted on 06/17/2005 6:48:05 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: MurryMom

Gitmo called death camp
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published June 16, 2005

The Senate's No. 2 Democrat has compared the U.S. military's treatment of a suspected al Qaeda terrorist at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay with the regimes of Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Pol Pot, three of history's most heinous dictators, whose regimes killed millions.

In a speech on the Senate floor late Tuesday, Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, castigated the American military's actions by reading an e-mail from an FBI agent.

. . .

About 9 million persons, including 6 million Jews, died in Hitler's death camps, 2.7 million persons died in Stalin's gulags and 1.7 million Cambodians died in Pol Pot's scourge of his country.

No prisoners have died at Guantanamo . . . . "


45 posted on 06/17/2005 6:48:06 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: beyond the sea; OXENinFLA
Do you remember way back when the press was complaining we weren't leaving mints on the prisoners pillows

We spent millions to upgrade Gitmo .. and they are STILL complaining
46 posted on 06/17/2005 6:51:01 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: MurryMom

For your lies, you and Dick bin Turd should be tarred, feathered, and hauled out of town on a rail.


47 posted on 06/17/2005 6:51:41 AM PDT by TSchmereL (Dick bin Turd is a Commie.)
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To: MurryMom

Please link to your source that lists the 10 GITMO terrorists that died.

The below link comes from the Washington Times

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050616-121815-1827r.htm

"No prisoners have died at Guantanamo, and the Pentagon has acknowledged five instances of abuse or irreverent handling of the Koran, the holy book of Muslims"

Just because you wish it so doesn't make it true.


48 posted on 06/17/2005 6:52:44 AM PDT by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: Mo1
We spent millions to upgrade Gitmo .. and they are STILL complaining

LOL. I spoke to some people in Nebraska, Iowa, and Missouri yesterday. I live in Pa. ALL OF THEM knew that this is all BULL!

Let the "barefoot detainee" ..... be a complainee. Most all Americans get the drift.

;-)

49 posted on 06/17/2005 6:55:20 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

The audio from Durbin's speech should be broadcast over and over...


50 posted on 06/17/2005 6:55:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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