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Fleeing a tornado may be safer than hiding from it
Ann Arbor News ^ | 6-17-05 | Bruce Seeman

Posted on 06/17/2005 7:33:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: MizSterious

turst me i have seen many more the you can even imagined i have


41 posted on 06/17/2005 8:14:37 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: MizSterious
I think it should be the law that every private home must come with one of those--and every aprtment building should have one for the tenants too. I doubt that it will happen.

agreed - but on the same token - Im frankly sick of the government telling me to buckle up

when does the intrusion stop

42 posted on 06/17/2005 8:15:17 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Protagoras

In California, they build houses to earthquake standards. In some of the east and Gulf coast states, they build houses to hurricane standards. In tornado states, there are no standards for the kind of weather we have. And idiots like some on Free Republic who don't think tornados are serious storms, or else just "a lot of wind" end up in hospitals or dead because of it.

Our storm cellar cost a couple of thousand bucks (built 10 years ago); house developers constantly add little fripperies like luxury bathtubs and marble counters or floors--do the right thing, people, and include a storm cellar. It will serve you a heck of a lot better than a marble countertop.


43 posted on 06/17/2005 8:15:18 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Rodney King
I love on the NW corner of OKC,

Not in public, I hope...

44 posted on 06/17/2005 8:16:21 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: janetjanet998

I read that the one Jerell (sp?) Tx. actually was ripping the asphalt from the roads...!!! I'm seriously considering my next home have a reinforced inner room if not a basement.


45 posted on 06/17/2005 8:17:02 AM PDT by Texans
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To: evets

yep..that was an f-5 that just stalled over a subdivision for many minutes..sucked the pavement off the roads...actually that was a subdivsion just west of jarrel..the litte town itslef was spared...many people saw the thing coming, got in their cars and drove away..most that stayed died.


46 posted on 06/17/2005 8:17:54 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

As I say, what you think you know is not helping people who are in the path of a tornado.


47 posted on 06/17/2005 8:18:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MplsSteve

An underground storm house or storm cellar connected or extremely close to your house - extremely close - and listen to the weather news, believe it and go to the storm house right away. Don't feel foolish for doing so if the tornado lifts up and bypasses your place.


48 posted on 06/17/2005 8:19:15 AM PDT by Twinkie (Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. Yes, that's all of us.)
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To: MizSterious

As I posted yesterday in a thread on this same article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1423900/posts?page=43#43

Soil types vary greatly and in central Oklahoma it is a red clay that expands and contracts significantly depending on moisture level. This makes structural integrity of a typical basement a challenge for builders that can only be overcome with $$$$$, thus making the house more expensive than market forces might allow. So choices are made and chances are taken.

Your comment on how this makes your insurance rate go up seems a bit over the top, IMO. The idea behind insurance is to spread the risk while taking into account all appropriate factors -- it is called the underwriting process. Sometimes that process causes insurance companies to not write a policy with risk factors they don't want to assume at any price.


49 posted on 06/17/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: MizSterious

Cause of Death Lifetime Odds
Cause Chance of Dying Cause Chance of Dying
Heart Disease 1-in-5 Drowning 1-in-8,942
Cancer 1-in-7 Air Travel Accident 1-in-20,000
Stroke 1-in-23 Flood (included also in Natural Forces) 1-in-30,000
Accidental Injury 1-in-36 Legal Execution 1-in-58,618
Motor Vehicle Accident 1-in-100 Tornado (incl also in Natural Forces) 1-in-60,000
Intentional Self-harm (suicide) 1-in-121 Snake, Bee or other Venomous Bite or Sting 1-in-100,000
Falling Down 1-in-246 Earthquake (incl also in Natural Forces) 1-in-131,890
Assault by Firearm 1-in-325 Dog Attack 1-in-147,717
Fire or Smoke 1-in-1,116 Asteroid Impact 1-in-200,000**
Natural Forces (heat, cold, storms, quakes) 1-in-3,357 Tsunami 1-in-500,000
Electrocution 1-in-5,000 Fireworks Discharge 1-in-615,488


50 posted on 06/17/2005 8:20:52 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: MizSterious

thats becuase earthquakes affect a much much greater area then tornadoes silly....a strong earthqauke will affect homes for 100's of square miles...even a hurricane will..not a tornado...


51 posted on 06/17/2005 8:20:56 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: T-Bird45

It's not over the top. Every time a county is hit by a large tornado, the insurance rates go up. That's plain fact. (Even if you live a long way from where the tornado actually hit--if you're in the county, your rates go up.)


52 posted on 06/17/2005 8:21:40 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: dirtboy

Woops. I meant live.


53 posted on 06/17/2005 8:22:46 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: janetjanet998

Really? You claim to be an expert on tornados. May 3, 1999 tornados devasted huge areas of the entire state (and also did damage in nearby states too).


54 posted on 06/17/2005 8:23:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MplsSteve

I don't have a basement or storm shelter and the safest place in my condo is where the water heater is located. So what I do is go to my stairwell with my pets.


55 posted on 06/17/2005 8:24:13 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: MizSterious
In California, they build houses to earthquake standards. In some of the east and Gulf coast states, they build houses to hurricane standards. In tornado states, there are no standards for the kind of weather we have. And idiots like some on Free Republic who don't think tornados are serious storms, or else just "a lot of wind" end up in hospitals or dead because of it.

All of those laws are liberal.

Our storm cellar cost a couple of thousand bucks (built 10 years ago);

Goody for you. It's your money. If you think pointing a gun at me and forcing me to pay " a couple of thousand dollars" so you can feel better about my chances is a good idea, you agree with Hillary.

The question is about liberal force based "do-good-ism", not storms.

56 posted on 06/17/2005 8:25:09 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: Protagoras

so the odds of dying in a tornado are 1-60,000 even less then dying from those other things...I'm not blaming you miz for your thinking..its the media..sort of like how they focus on 10 minor bad things out of 10,000 at gitmo..and now its a "death camp"...i know its not a death camp you know its not a death camp...but the average joe blow who only sees a second about it on the news thinks so..


57 posted on 06/17/2005 8:25:25 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: MizSterious

I think you should be forced to stop eating ice cream, at gunpoint if necessary.


58 posted on 06/17/2005 8:26:53 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: T-Bird45
Soil types vary greatly and in central Oklahoma it is a red clay that expands and contracts significantly depending on moisture level. This makes structural integrity of a typical basement a challenge for builders

Exactly, which is why you can't mandate storm shelters. Although, I do find it a bit disheartening that the area of the country hit most by tornados doesn't have basements.

59 posted on 06/17/2005 8:28:05 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: janetjanet998
Actually, the odds are longer. Those are life time odds.

But the real question isn't about risk. It's about liberal force based nanny state laws being proposed on a so called conservative website. It's pathetic.

60 posted on 06/17/2005 8:29:36 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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