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Fleeing a tornado may be safer than hiding from it
Ann Arbor News ^ | 6-17-05 | Bruce Seeman

Posted on 06/17/2005 7:33:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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To: Protagoras

Actually, no, you're quite wrong. I'd rather it be left up to the home buyer, provided the rest of us don't end up paying for his hosptial bills. I feel the same way about seat belts--get rid of the "click it or ticket" lawa, but don't pay insurance for those who don't "click it."


61 posted on 06/17/2005 8:29:39 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

it wasn't HUGE areas..and most of your "HUGE" areas were nothing but farmland anyway..when hurricane Andrew hot florida that was a HUGE populated area(actully they were luckly it moved south at the last minute and it was a relativly small hurricane..had it hit north 20 more miles the more popuated northern suburbs the damaged amount would of been far worse)


62 posted on 06/17/2005 8:30:47 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

No, it's not the media. It's experience. Anyone living in tornado alley is an idiot if they don't have an underground place to go. (And it's not just tornados--last night we had 96 mph straight line winds with baseball-sized hail just up the road from us. Any idea what that would do to even a well-built house?)


63 posted on 06/17/2005 8:31:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Protagoras

"I think you should be forced to stop eating ice cream, at gunpoint if necessary."

Oh no, that would be "profiling," LOL.


64 posted on 06/17/2005 8:32:03 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Protagoras

I think you should engage your brain before typing on Free Republic--since we're talking about what we "think."


65 posted on 06/17/2005 8:32:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Texas Federalist
Exactly, which is why you can't mandate storm shelters.

Actually, that's not the reason. The real reason is that it's anti-freedom and pro liberal.

But with "conservatives" proposing this nonsense, who can we look to to defend Americanism?

66 posted on 06/17/2005 8:33:15 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: janetjanet998
when hurricane Andrew hot florida that was a HUGE populated area

Yeah, and you had ample warning that it was coming and time to get out of its way if you so chose.

With a tornado, you're lucky if you get 20 minutes warning. Often, you get less. And the consequences of getting caught in the open, or in your car, or in a mobile home are pretty severe. So you need to be prepared.

67 posted on 06/17/2005 8:33:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: janetjanet998

Did you even bother to check where the tornados hit? May 3rd wasn't one of those F2, country-side, barn busting tornado outbreaks. Many--perhaps most--hit the cities: Moore, south Oklahoma City, Midwest City, even one in Norman. Try to avoid showing your ignorance.


68 posted on 06/17/2005 8:34:33 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Protagoras

"But with "conservatives" proposing this nonsense, who can we look to to defend Americanism?"

Libertarians.


69 posted on 06/17/2005 8:34:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: MizSterious
since we're talking about what we "think."

Every bad idea starts with a thought. So it's highly relevant to debate your thoughts, if you choose to cast them into the forum, and see if they are good or bad ideas (I tend to agree with Protagoras, the desire to protect us from ourselves is the root of much government mischief).

70 posted on 06/17/2005 8:35:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: MizSterious
Actually, no, you're quite wrong.

Actually, YOU proposed a force based liberal law.

I'd rather it be left up to the home buyer, provided the rest of us don't end up paying for his hosptial bills.

That is pitiful. Shall we go through the boring exercize of pointing out all the things that someone could justify under such a preposterous theory?

I feel the same way about seat belts--get rid of the "click it or ticket" lawa, but don't pay insurance for those who don't "click it."

I feel the same way about you riding a bike, walking on uneven ground, riding in an aircraft, eating foods I deem fattening, smoking, being 10 lbs overweight, etc, etc, etc ad-nauseum.

71 posted on 06/17/2005 8:38:38 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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72 posted on 06/17/2005 8:39:19 AM PDT by evets
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To: MizSterious

Fine. If you don't want one, don't build one--but such people should also be banned from using their health and property insurance. Folks like you make my insurance rates go up.



First, storm cellars don't reduce damage to your home.

Second, tornado health or life claims are such a minuscule fraction that they are not worth worrying about.

Third, if they were significant, let the insurance comnpanies deal with the issue.


73 posted on 06/17/2005 8:39:27 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: evets

LOL. Is the little caution-guy stick figure running for his life, or airborne, swirling the funnel?


74 posted on 06/17/2005 8:40:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Libertarians.

They are reviled by many Freepers. Mostly by the ones who belong at DU.

75 posted on 06/17/2005 8:40:37 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: MizSterious

no once again YOU are showing your ignorance...you don't want to get into this argument trust me YOU will loose...just because a torando is an F-5 doesn't mean a) the whole tornado was an f-5 and b) the tornado when an f-5 for its entire life....even in a mile wide f5...the areas of f-5 damage is only a small area near the center...atcually it will have many smaller vortexes rotating around near the center..only 3% of all tornadoes are f-4+ but again not all of an "f-4" tornado is F-4


76 posted on 06/17/2005 8:41:22 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: MizSterious; janetjanet998
Folks like you make my insurance rates go up.

I have to agree with Janet on that note..."Oh puhlease!"

77 posted on 06/17/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Beelzebubba

"Folks like you make my insurance rates go up."

You're not going to make much headway with someone who can't see the authoritarian dystopia that will be created by such thinking, who still manages somehow to consider themselves conservative.


78 posted on 06/17/2005 8:42:39 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: MizSterious
Fine. If you don't want one, don't build one--but such people should also be banned from using their health and property insurance. Folks like you make my insurance rates go up.

Not everyone that lives in tornado alley owns their own home. I've leased the home I live in since I moved to Ok. 4 years ago. I'd love to have a cellar in the backyard. Most of the homes in my town don't have basements or fraidy-holes.

The high school is the official go-to shelter but it's not always open as was the case earlier this month. We had some severe thunderstorms, lost power and the sirens went off. After it was all over it was determined our little town had 82 mph straight line winds, golf ball sized hail and 2 funnels about a mile out of town. I'm not sure it would have been a good idea to get in the car to drive to the high school since trees and large branches were falling in different areas of town. We take care of the trees on the property so we only had one large limb that was broken and dangling. If we hadn't done some major pruning on the apple tree in the front yard earlier this spring, our roof might have been wearing part of the tree.

Up until last July, if we had the time, we'd drive directly to a close friends house since he had an underground shelter. Last July he died after a long and happy life and his place was sold. Now we're left with the school if it's open or riding it out in a frame home.

Having a cellar or a tornado safe room in the house isn't going to protect the house, that's one reason people carry property insurance. Hopefully I'll never have to use the health insurance I pay for because I've been injured in a tornado.

79 posted on 06/17/2005 8:47:09 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: battlegearboat

I lived in Norman, and was picking my wife up in Edmond that day. Had I decided to head on home instead of wait out the storm (I had a Final the next day), we would have been right in the path. Took us 3 hours to cover a 30 minute trip because of all the debris and detours.


80 posted on 06/17/2005 8:47:51 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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