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House Rejects Effort on Rifle Restriction
AP/Newsday ^ | 6/16/05 | ANDREW TAYLOR

Posted on 06/17/2005 9:25:39 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

House Rejects Effort on Rifle Restriction

By ANDREW TAYLOR

June 16, 2005, 4:18 PM EDT

WASHINGTON -- The National Rifle Association and its allies in the House beat back an effort Thursday to restrict gun manufacturers' exports of high-powered, .50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away.

By a 278-149 vote, the House killed an amendment by Rep. James Moran to block .50-caliber exports to civilians. He said the guns are dream weapons for terrorists.

"These are unparalleled weapons, and I'm not trying to restrict them in the United States," said Moran, D-Va. "I just don't want them sold by arms dealers."

But gun rights advocates, with backing from the powerful NRA, turned aside the amendment.

The vote came as the House wrapped up a three-day debate and passed by 418-7 a $57.5 billion spending bill for NASA and the departments of Commerce, State and Justice for the budget year beginning Oct. 1.

The Senate has yet to act on the bill.

Supporters of gun rights said the government already has ample authority to block the export of .50-caliber weapons.

"This amendment is not going to address illegal sales," said Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn.

The .50-caliber rifle is the most powerful firearm in wide circulation. It can penetrate thick steel used to armor personnel carriers and is accurate at distances greater than a mile. Moran said that if someone were to use the weapons from such distances, he easily would evade law enforcement.

The risks associated with .50-caliber weapons gained attention this year after CBS' "60 Minutes" aired a report demonstrating the ease with which .50-caliber rifles could be exported to overseas militias.

But the NRA said the amendment was an unnecessary infringement on gun rights and that existing laws provide penalties for smuggling the rifles.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 50cal; bang; banglist; jamesmoran; nra

1 posted on 06/17/2005 9:25:39 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

My NRA at work.
If you're a member, please put the NRA initials in your tagline. If not, please join. They are the best and biggest dog in your fight to keep and bear arms.


2 posted on 06/17/2005 9:29:19 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: kiriath_jearim

From a mile away....... I would really like to see that.


3 posted on 06/17/2005 9:29:41 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Adding to powers already empowered is stupid. It wouldn't hurt though if the same folks ignoring ilegals going over the border would consider the fact these guys can bring weapons acrost with ease.


4 posted on 06/17/2005 9:37:06 AM PDT by kharaku (G3)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away."

Hey, someone tell Rumsfeld that we don't need Stinger missiles, or the Patriot missiles, or any other sort of anti-air craft shield. Just give a GI one of these semi-auto or bolt rifles and enemy jets can be sweeped out of the sky in a mile radius. Think of the budget savings! Forget the F-22, we just need a sniper with a 50 caliber single shot in the gondola of the Goodyear blimp to attain air superiority.

And was that not a waste of ammo in WWII and in Korea to use machine guns on planes and on the ground to bring down enemy air craft? I mean, if all it takes is a semi-auto rifle, why were M-2's installed in planes and on anti-aircraft vehicles. Why, all those Kamikazes could have been brought down if only we would have used single shot rifles instead of cannons and machine guns.
5 posted on 06/17/2005 9:38:18 AM PDT by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The National Rifle Association and its allies in the House beat back an effort Thursday to restrict gun manufacturers' exports of high-powered, .50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away.

"Women and minorities also hurt."

Seriously, if anyone ever doubts the leftist slant of the MSM, one need look no further than the article's first sentence.

6 posted on 06/17/2005 9:41:28 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"The National Rifle Association and its allies in the House beat back an effort Thursday to restrict gun manufacturers' exports of high-powered, .50-caliber rifles"

It's amazing how the MSM manages to ignore the fact that opposition to gun control might actually have a particle of public support-it's always just the NRA 'against the will and good sense of the American public.' Barf.


7 posted on 06/17/2005 9:52:37 AM PDT by Spok
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To: kiriath_jearim
Sniffffffffff...

One can almost smell the hopolophobe bias wafting of this piece of crAP!

Good job by the NRA and their eeeeeeevil Republican House Allies on this one!

8 posted on 06/17/2005 9:56:20 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Will Work For Ammo)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Don't worry. The next dem adminsitration will just add it to the next installment of the "patriot" act.


9 posted on 06/17/2005 9:59:39 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ANGGAPO
Apparently Andrew Taylor did not do a lot of research before he wrote this little propaganda piece. No creditability equals an unbelievable article... therefore AP editors also look like idiots... nothing new here, move on.
10 posted on 06/17/2005 10:03:35 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: kiriath_jearim

"...50-caliber rifles that can bring down jet airliners from a mile away. "

But only if it uses Black Rhino ammunition?


11 posted on 06/17/2005 10:13:12 AM PDT by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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Gee! Did they check Wellstone's plane for a .50 cal. bullethole ??


12 posted on 06/17/2005 10:18:30 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: WmDonovan

--and as sort of an aside to this, it required 12000 rounds of .50BMG ammo per enemy plane shot down in WW 2, in both the European and Pacific theatres of war---


13 posted on 06/17/2005 10:23:01 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

"it required 12000 rounds of .50BMG ammo per enemy plane shot down in WW 2"

Yes, it did, and that's why those guns must be banned, Banned BANNED!

Think of the huge population of American and foreign Muslims in the USA. And every one of them has, or is going to get, one of those .50 cal airplane killer guns.

Sell your airline stock! Buy Barrett stock!

My sarcasm well just went dry.


14 posted on 06/17/2005 10:57:16 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The .50-caliber rifle ... is accurate at distances greater than a mile.

Closer than that, it won't hit a durned thing.

15 posted on 06/17/2005 11:10:24 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A wowser, lacking any of the greater virtues, makes up that lack by denunciation of little vices)
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