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Iran - The Next Secular Revolution?
Free Inquiry ^ | June 2005 | Austin Dacey

Posted on 06/18/2005 5:51:25 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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To: CaptainAwesome2
You're wrong. The Iraqi people in general are working very hard for a secular government. They've achieved an incredible amount in an extremely short time. Don't denigrate their achievements, or those of our military.

in addition, the mad mullahs are continuing the clod war they had with Saddam by sending in terrorists to pose as "insurgents", disrupt the fledgling Iraqi government, take over Iraq at last AND score a major victory against the hated US without officially firing a shot. While the mad mullahs are distracted in Iraq....anything can happen in Iran.

41 posted on 06/18/2005 7:17:19 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: cake_crumb
"Clod war" was supposed to be "cold war". Sheesh!
42 posted on 06/18/2005 7:19:20 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: F14 Pilot

which is exactly why some iranian students wont be able to defeat islam. it is in peoples heads. they cant let it go.


43 posted on 06/18/2005 7:19:37 PM PDT by CaptainAwesome2
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To: cake_crumb

our soldiers are working very hard but management has made a bad decision.


44 posted on 06/18/2005 7:20:33 PM PDT by CaptainAwesome2
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45 posted on 06/18/2005 7:21:00 PM PDT by Khashayar (Screw You and Your Gas!)
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To: CaptainAwesome2

They're not trying to "defeat Islam". They're trying to defeat the Islamist theothugs who rule with an iron fist. They want a secular government, not a society free from religion.


46 posted on 06/18/2005 7:22:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: CaptainAwesome2
"our soldiers are working very hard but management has made a bad decision."

The bulk of the Iraqi people would disagree.

47 posted on 06/18/2005 7:24:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: F14 Pilot

I have a dear friend who is an Iranian. One time I wished him a blessed Eid and he said "Thank, but I don't go in for that Islamic crap." :o)


48 posted on 06/18/2005 7:24:49 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Khashayar

Nice graphic :-)


49 posted on 06/18/2005 7:24:55 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: McGavin999

Great to hear that!


50 posted on 06/18/2005 7:30:52 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
There is only one way to bring down the mullah's régime of jihad. The same way the Taliban and Saddam's Ba'athists were overthrown, except in the case of the radical Shi'ite clerics the stakes are far higher, unless they are brought down swiftly.

There are also potential serious risks for the continuing stability of global economics due to the geostrategic location of Iran, her offensive missiles arsenal and the petroleum sea-lanes exiting the Persian Gulf, plus the Saudi & Kuwaiti oil fields open to air attacks, if something were to go wrong in toppling the current dictatorship.

Either way the current collection of mullahs must be prevented in gaining any nuclear advantage.

51 posted on 06/18/2005 7:34:57 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: thierrya
Why didn't Iranians support the Shah, instead of helping the mollahs taking over their country?

Because they have seen Shah as a dictator supported from abroad.

52 posted on 06/18/2005 7:37:31 PM PDT by A. Pole (Alexander Solzhenitsyn: "Live Not By Lies")
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To: voletti
The present generation of students were likely born after 1979 and have no clue about the Shah regime's relative freedoms.

How the elections under Shah compared to the elections today? How the SAVAK police compared with the Revolutionary Guard today?

53 posted on 06/18/2005 7:39:33 PM PDT by A. Pole (Alexander Solzhenitsyn: "Live Not By Lies")
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To: A. Pole

The revolution wasnt supported by majority of Iranians but liberal media portrayed it as if it was supported by masses in Iran.


54 posted on 06/18/2005 7:40:34 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: A. Pole

You can not compare them with each other!


55 posted on 06/18/2005 7:41:19 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: A. Pole

Whatever be the case, I find it hard to believe that the Shah's regime was in any sognificant way way worse for ordinary people that mullah rule is now.


56 posted on 06/18/2005 8:07:13 PM PDT by voletti (One Ring to rule them all, one Ring to find them....)
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To: F14 Pilot
You can not compare them with each other!

Why not?

57 posted on 06/18/2005 8:22:13 PM PDT by A. Pole (Alexander Solzhenitsyn: "Live Not By Lies")
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To: voletti
Whatever be the case, I find it hard to believe that the Shah's regime was in any sognificant way way worse for ordinary people that mullah rule is now.

The reason why Shah was overthrown was that he was seen as a foreign puppet. If you had choice for USA to be ruled by some homegrown neo-Puritans or by the tolerant regime imposed by UN/EU, what would you prefer?

58 posted on 06/18/2005 8:26:04 PM PDT by A. Pole (Alexander Solzhenitsyn: "Live Not By Lies")
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To: A. Pole

The Shah may have been a dictator, but Khomeini wanted to take Iran back into the Dark Ages.


59 posted on 06/18/2005 8:35:57 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: thierrya

Blame who you will for 1979. What’s real now, is much bigger than then. Middle East could easily change forever...


60 posted on 06/18/2005 10:24:24 PM PDT by Reza2004
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