Protesters on both sides of immigration debate face off in Alhambra

Associated Press ^ | June 19. 2005 | Associated Press.

[BurbankKarl]

Always ask to see their guard card

[Travis McGee]

CW2 Ping

(From the SOS release. Note especially the police taking the side of the violent communist illegal alien invaders.)

This is what happened:

Three weeks prior to the rally I contacted the Alhambra PD to notify them of our organizations intent and what to expect in terms of opposition, largely based on what happened in Baldwin Park.

Over the past two weeks I had 4 detailed phone calls with the Alhambra PD, giving them all the information I had on our opposition and my opinions on how this should be handled based on our recent events. These conversations seemed to be completely productive and I had several assurances that the Alhambra PD was going to be on the ball and would do their very best to keep order and protect our rights.

I had an agreement with the Alhambra PD to take the southern side of the main entrance. When we showed up early to take that spot, several radical protestors of the Indy Media ilk were already there and began sceaming at us the moment they saw us approaching. They had bullhorns, alcohol on their breath and an overwhelming stench of body odor emanating from them.

Right from the get-go, were were surrounded, screamed at with bullhorns, shoved, had a couple of signs stolen and broken and all not more than 25 feet from police who completely failed to intervene. When I pursued one individual who broke a sign and stole it, I asked an officer to take action. He condescendingly responded that that he didn't see it and to go talk to the Lieutenant in charge. I consulted her, a Lt. Lopez who absolutely astounded me with her condescension, total lack of interest and clear intent to do nothing. I asked her if being surrounded by hostile, drunken protestors screaming at us with bullhorns at point blank range at excessive noise levels, enough to damage a person's hearing, is illegal she said, "No they have their rights too". This floored me. She refused to do ANYTHING about this situation.

The harrassment continued unabated. Me and two others were completely surrounded and followed everywhere we went. We could not get to the curb or display our signs while being assailed in this way. This was far worse than anything I saw in Baldwin Park in terms of a mob mentality and violation of one's personal space.

Because we could not assemble at the agreed spot that the police assured me we'd have, things continued to escalate to the point where the abusive behavior of these animals was so excessive I was ready to risk going to jail by going berserk and retaliating in a violent manner, which I felt was completely justified. We were threatened and abused with the most vile rhetoric, shoving, some were spit on apparently. The noise level was deafening.

By now our members were being separated by growing numbers of counterdemonstrators who were equally as hostile as all the others. The situation deteriorated quickly while the police ignored it all. Fed up, I called the officer at the department who I had been speaking with for the past two weeks and read him the riot act, telling him his officers were failing to live up to their obligations. To my astonishment the officer said that ever since the Baldwin Park rally the "climate had changed" and that this was what we should expect. Frustrated that I was getting nowhere I ended the call.

About 20 minutes later the police realized things were really out of control and decided to separate us and seething crowd of lunatics around us. The police had to make a clearing for us to get through and as we proceeded down the sidewalk I was assaulted by a raving madman who clawed me in the stomach and shouted incoherently. Out of instinct I knocked his hand away, got in his face and was ready to retaliate when the mob converged around me. I called an officer to get involved and the officer merely looked the other way. It was incredible.

More police arrived to separate the groups but it was not until nearly 10 AM that things started to have some semblance of order. I tried to debate a couple of the more rational opponents and actually was able to come to terms with one of them who said he had a better understanding of what we were about but still believed there were racists among us.

I also spoke to both the former Mayor and the current Mayor. The former Mayor I have known for some time and although he seem dissapointed in my involvement with SoS he tried understanding my point of view.

The mob raged for the next two hours, insults kept coming, ranting and raving, making no sense. I got my hand at a bullhorn lecture to the opposing mobsters and for a few minutes I felt powerful. Even the cop in front of me gave me a nod of approval. I did a couple of quick interviews with La Opinion and a college newspaper, had a few more exchanges with some dickheads on the other side and enjoyed seeing the utter dismay of the Home Depot employees in the parking lot.

We got escorted back to our vehicles in groups. I gave one parting gesture to the mob, which wasn't the most affectionate and departed with a few others. We met for lunch and discussed the days events. All agreed that the police were completely ineffective and defiant.

I cannot emphasize how vile this mob was. I had people in my face with foul, alcoholic breath, yellowed teeth, spittle flying from their mouths, screaming horrendous obscenities. This crowd is truly composedbof primitive scum.

Under any other circumstance, the abuse these animals showed would have been met with a violent response but I used every bit of restraint I had in me. I have decided I will not side with this level of restraint ever again. The police failed us. I relied upon them to do what was necessary in these situations and they refused to do their jobs. The next time a megaphone is jammed in my ear or someone reaches out to grab me, fists are going to fly - cops or no cops.

Emails to the Alhambra Police are encouraged. I will be calling the Alhambra PD on Monday to let them know my thoughts on this fiasco.

Expect more pictures and some videos soon. www.saveourstate.org

[B4Ranch]

He condescendingly responded that that he didn't see it and to go talk to the Lieutenant in charge. I consulted her, a Lt. Lopez who absolutely astounded me with her condescension, total lack of interest and clear intent to do nothing.

Evidently the Lieutenant in charge, a Lt. Lopez received her promotion due to diversity and not her IQ.

[cyborg]

bump

[CharlieChan]

I looked at the videos posted by occutegirl and watched those punks getting right into people's faces, say F U, etc. It was also impossible not to notice the cops standing around with smirks on their faces, doing nothing.

I'm glad I was not there. Had I been, and had those people got in my face like that, I would now be in jail. You did the right thing by avoiding a lose/lose situation.

My guess is the L.A. Mayor-elect Villaprovocator has every Police Chief in the L.A. area (Appointed by City Councils) running scared. It doesn't take rocket man to see what's coming, and coming soon.

The only way I see to take this on is with massive numbers. South Calif CITIZENS can either get out in the streets and particpate, or--in a very short time--they will be run out of their homes, and out of the state.

GAME OVER

[hosepipe]

[ If the ATF and the ICE swapped agents, every illegal alien in America would be arrested, deported or shot in one month. ]

LoL...

[JoeBob]

Travis McGee, the time is fast aproaching when violence is bound to happen during a confrontation such as you endured. Because Kalifornicate is so anti gun I suggest carrying a leather pouch about 6" long and 2" in diameter with a drawstring long enough to encircle your wrist. Fill it with dimes or nickels and have it in your pocket readily available. If arrested you just claim it is your coin purse. There was a case a few years back about a kid in prison being beaten to death by another inmate who had a bar of soap in a sock. It supposedly didn't leave many bruises. Best of luck, thanks for your (and the others in SOS)courage, watch your back!

Joebob

[JoeBob]

Travis McGee, the time is fast aproaching when violence is bound to happen during a confrontation such as you endured. Because Kalifornicate is so anti gun I suggest carrying a leather pouch about 6" long and 2" in diameter with a drawstring long enough to encircle your wrist. Fill it with dimes or nickels and have it in your pocket readily available. If arrested you just claim it is your coin purse. There was a case a few years back about a kid in prison being beaten to death by another inmate who had a bar of soap in a sock. It supposedly didn't leave many bruises. Best of luck, thanks for your (and the others in SOS)courage, watch your back!

Joebob

[hosepipe]

[ 1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass. ]

Wrong word.. insurgents is what they are..
Insurgents planning insurrection..

Invasion is what armys do..

[JoeBob]

Sorry about the double reply. I quess I'm too fast on the button.

[JoeBob]

I never thought about this in the way you did. You are absolutely right. Just as the insurgents are coming into Iraq from Syria, so are the La Raza types coming in from Mexico. Their aim is to destabilize the economy, split the country racially and eventually take over the area they call Aztlan. If the administration and congress doesn't do something soon there will open fighting and lawlessness as there was in LA after the Rodney King incident.

[hosepipe]

Travis I hear opportunity knocking..
Some video of an event such as this properly edited..
Would make a helluva tool.. not to speak of evidence for law suits..

You do know that this was a setup.. because of your advanced notice.. don't you.. of course you do..

They obviously have the civil authorities cow-towed or totally penetrated.. like I said.. opportunity knocks..

If a picture is worth a 1000 words a video "edited" is worth a million... with dialog of course.. This arrogance "should" be exploited.. The "next" protest should be "planned" if you know what I mean... They (the authoritys and minions) won't know what hit them.. when the video is released.. Agitprop of heroic proportions.. Would be able to do it only once or twice planning is mandatory..

[doug from upland]

MIDI - BORDERLINE - version 3

We know they won't stop the flow...once they get in, they won't go

Minutemen step up, they sound the alarm
They will do what must be done and so many of them have been armed
Our hospitals are closing...Congress has been dozing...this invasion must be stopped
George Bush will not step on toes...while the problem grows...and so this ball has been dropped

Some know what they must do...they'll fight for me and you
And not stop until they're through

Borderline...that's where they're heading for their big fight
They will show Vicente they will shut down the borderline
Borderline...'cause his invasion has got to stop
They will show Vicente they will shut down the borderline

We know they won't stop the flow...once they get in, they won't go

We have had enough of millions here from below
All our benefits they take, then money goes to Mexico
Our hospitals are closing...Congress has been dozing...this invasion must be stopped
Bush will not step on toes...while the problem grows...and so this ball has been dropped

Some know what they must do...they'll fight for me and you
And not stop until they're through

Borderline...that's where they're heading for their big fight
They will show Vicente they will shut down the borderline
Borderline...'cause his invasion has got to stop
They will show Vicente they will shut down the borderline

Taxpayers have...been really screwed...we'll take it no more
Modern Minutemen...they will shut down the borderline
We've had enough...we'll take no more...not anymore
Modern Minutemen will go and shut down the borderline

[1_Inch_Group]

Pic snapped today of Sin Frontera members.

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From the Anaheim Riot...in 2001

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link to all the photos from Anaheim, and a description of what happened then. This guy was very aggressive Saturday and will need to be dealt with. Hope the police get him under control before he gets himself hurt.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?s=f3a76eb3e39d9d92ac0bfbdb95ce18ad&showtopic=2682&st=0

[lentulusgracchus]

Invasion is what armys do.....

Not necessarily.

The Western Roman Empire was invaded by a horde of Germans of various tribal affiliations in December, 405 A.D. The irruption was by organized bands consisting of tribal and clan groups, including entire families.

Egypt was invaded by the Sea Peoples in the reigns of Merneptah and Ramesses III, during the XVIIIth and XIXth Dynasties. The latter invasion was accomplished by large tribal groups moving with their entire households: "Land united, our plan will succeed," is what they told one another, according to the Egyptian chronicles. Sound familiar?

The same thing was true of the Aryan invasion of the Dravidian Indus Valley civilization that sacked Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro. Likewise of the Anatolian invasion that sacked Troy II and buried the "treasure of Priam" a thousand years before Priam and Hector defended that same city against the well-greaved Greeks.

Nice stab at taking control of a definition, but usage and history are against you.

[Blood of Tyrants]

You can guarantee that the police would have arrested you in a heartbeat and charged you with "inciting a riot" if you had been forced to defend yourselves.

Looks like you have a lasuit against the police for failing to protect your civil rights. Juat think of it this way, if your group had been blacks protesting against unfair hiring practices by Home Depot, you can bet your ass the police would have been on the ball.

[Dead Corpse]

Glad I wasn't there. There would have been blood spilled. Considering those a$$bat cops, some of it would have ended up being mine.

Disgusting what we are allowing to happen.

[skeeter]

This crowd is truly composedbof primitive scum.

The future of California.

[in the Arena]

BTTT

[RoseofTexas]

If our govt. would have been doing their job correctly enforcing the law on immigration and posted Coast Guards along border, we, the people of the USA would not have gone through these drastic measures of enlisting Citizens to guard our borders and organizing protests to combat those who have casually walked over into our territory and break laws!!