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To: Archon of the East
Would the term Soros progressive socialist be more fitting than Marxist?

No. You are attempting to label others who don't share your dogma as enemies of the Christian state. Many socialists are Christian and so are many Democrats and Libertarians. The Republican Party does not own Christianity and Christianity does not own America.

You dodge the issue by injecting Soros, ACLU et all into the debate. That is exactly the reason why so many are speaking out against Christian zealotry. There was no problem until televangelists stirred up the gullible with their claims of "persecution".
That empowerd the ACLU and others to recruit the gullible on the other side who fear a return of Christian intolerance. Many are old enough to remember what happened when gullible Germans were shouting "Germany is a Christian nation".

American founding was a product of heavy Christian influence,

We all agree on that. Deists are not anti-Christian. Why are Christians anti-Deist?

never did I say that anyone should be a second class citizen for their religious beliefs or lack of. Never!

"America is a Christian nation" is saying exactly that.
Non Christians see that as a threat, and see attempts by Christians to rewrite history as sinister.

Aren't our laws essentially based on the Magna Carta

No, they are not. The Magna Carta did not separate church and state and did not grant self determination to the people. The Constitution does.

OK mugs, thanks for the condescending ROFL!

That wasn't condescending, it was genuine...Sorry you took it that way.
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48 posted on 06/20/2005 2:31:18 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: mugs99
No I am not attempting to label anyone. If you read my initial "Marxist" statement I was merely saying that group is certainly attacking Christianity and many are "using" the Deist argument (whether it be true or false). I was NOT implying that Deist's are Soros Socialist's, in fact I feel very close with Deist's. And no the Republican party doesn't own Christianity as Christians are able to vote for whom they like. No i wasn't dodging the debate as I was presenting examples of Christianity under attack in response to your ROFL. By the way you somewhat contradicted yourself admitting there are groups fighting Christianity out of fear of zealotry. And very succesfully might I add...IMO

There is no doubt that our founders did intend to relegate religion from realm of knowledge to opinion, otherwise the same tyrannical Government would follow whether that government be a theocracy, monarchy, or aristocracy. Thus obviously (if you want to label all of them with same brush)they had a Deist quality to their work. Though the question remains from these quotes what role did they see or want Christianity (religion) to play in the future of America?

By the way yes, Germany went off the deep end but it wasn't becuase of Christianity it was mostly because of Woodrow Wilson. I am just curious as to how you see zealotry playing out here in the America, what exactly are Christians trying to do that has everbody's shorts in bunch?

50 posted on 06/20/2005 4:38:59 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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