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Joint strike fighter simulator is glimpse into future
Stars and Stripes ^ | 2005 Jun 20 | Scott Schonauer

Posted on 06/19/2005 2:46:42 PM PDT by Wiz

SPANGDAHLEM AIR BASE, Germany — It will be more than six years until the military has its first operational squadron of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.

But Trey Evans, 14, got to fly the supersonic and stealthy jet last week and raved about it.

“This is great,” he said, smiling afterward. “I could do it all day.”

He flew a computer simulator, of course. Plane builder Lockheed Martin brought its traveling F-35 cockpit sim to Spangdahlem and Ramstein Air Base to show off the future fighter. A team from Lockheed Martin, based in Texas, is touring Europe, bringing the cockpit to U.S. and European bases.

About 500 people at Ramstein and Spangdahlem got a test run. Anyone could try the sim, from pilots to spouses, and most left impressed.

First Lt. Rob Hansel, an F-16 pilot with the Spangdahlem-based 22nd Fighter Squadron, said the plane is much more advanced and offers a tremendous amount of information to help pilots get a good picture of the situation around them.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: f35; jsf

1 posted on 06/19/2005 2:46:42 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Righty_McRight

ping


2 posted on 06/19/2005 2:48:41 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz

Better get used to it, because the next generation will likely have no pilot aboard but fly them virtually instead.


3 posted on 06/19/2005 2:56:24 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Let's have virtual movie actors and actresses too! We'd miss the pilots but not hollywood.


4 posted on 06/19/2005 3:03:21 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: SteveMcKing

Actually UAV's are unsuitable for air combat due to latency.

Any control facility close enough to the front is a target (a nice big central one), anything far enough to be safe is far enough so that the signal is going to be delayed by fractions of a second. A second round trip for the information means that the controller would see the world on a one second delay, and the UAV would simply not be able to react.

The best compromise is to maintain manned fighters to keep a man in the loop, but use UAV's as cheap platforms to ferry additional rounds and Bombs in as his "squires". The squires would also be able to leverage countermeasures against enemy defenses and could be programmed to self-intercept any fatal enemy shots.


5 posted on 06/19/2005 3:03:25 PM PDT by Katana16j
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To: Wiz
Joint strike fighter simulator is glimpse into future

I want one!!!

The A-10 simulator (obviously, primitive compared to this "traveing show") is the only game I have on my personal computers -- and I love it....

6 posted on 06/19/2005 4:32:59 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: TXnMA
I have seen the A-10 training simulator at Eielson AFB. It was kind of interesting and the pilot seemed to have it completely under control. He had all the attitude gauges rotating this way and that and could bring it back to straight and level immediately. It seemed interesting but pointless.

In no way did it prepare me for seeing an actual A-10 ground strike. That is when the motion of the attitude gauges in the simulator made sense.

7 posted on 06/19/2005 4:38:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Katana16j

I like the of 'squire' uav's that are cheap and expendable. But which pack a big punch and give more air prescence.


8 posted on 06/19/2005 4:41:30 PM PDT by ran15
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To: RightWhale
I have seen the A-10 training simulator at Eielson AFB. It seemed interesting but pointless.

Your comment points out just how far behind today's capabilities the military is -- mostly due to their antediluvian, slower-than-cold-molasses procurement practices.

My simulator software is so old that it is no longer in production (and the company may be defunct). I run it with three monitors (one for forward/HUD view, and two for side views (of amazingly detailed terrain and target/combat scenarios). You can select a widely varied armament loadout (and experience the matching weight/performance effects). Of course, you can select for time of day, weather, etc.

It even includes the effect of reduced air density near the hot desert surface. The only real effect it lacks is the reverse thrust, smoke, and vibration when the GAU-8 fires.

And it's only a game -- playable on a laptop...

9 posted on 06/19/2005 5:03:56 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: TXnMA

You got the pedals and trim wheels and everything?


10 posted on 06/19/2005 5:45:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale
You got the pedals and trim wheels and everything?

No, although it will accept input from all of the above, I never got them, because, as I said, it is only a game to me. (IOW, I know I'll never get a chance to fly an actual A-10.)

With the SAS (Stability Augmentation System) engaged, I can fly it quite well with a good joystick and occasional keyboard input -- once I get it trim-neutral. I have even flown a few successful missions using only my laptop's trackpad, but, to be truthful, most of those wind up "violating the air-ground interface" in the heat of combat maneuvering... '-}

However, I have found that mounting the (properly trimmed and calibrated) joystick on a solid, immovable base is a big help.

11 posted on 06/19/2005 6:53:10 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: TXnMA

I nearly invested in a set of pedals, but realized at the last minute that there would be no room for the dog. :)


12 posted on 06/19/2005 7:31:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale
I nearly invested in a set of pedals, but realized at the last minute that there would be no room for the dog. :)

Good to see you have your priorities straight! :-)

13 posted on 06/19/2005 7:35:26 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: Wiz
Can't help but wonder if this simulator included VTOL and transition to level flight.

If that was easy for a 14-yr-old, then the JSF designers really did their homework!

14 posted on 06/19/2005 7:38:58 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: TXnMA

Some of them anyway, at this late date.


15 posted on 06/19/2005 7:39:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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