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1 posted on 06/20/2005 7:17:40 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: OXENinFLA; Ernest_at_the_Beach

FYI


2 posted on 06/20/2005 7:19:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Pretty sleuth-like!!!


3 posted on 06/20/2005 7:20:35 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Great sleuthing, Doc.....


4 posted on 06/20/2005 7:20:54 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Doctor Raoul

Woah.


5 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (And our prisoners at Gitmo eat better than I do)
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To: Doctor Raoul
It sure looks like an official seal to me, which brings up the question as to the legitimacy of the entire story.

After all, if the document was "retyped" it wouldn't have been done on official stationary. If the document was going to be passed off as legitimate, it stands to reason that the official seal would have been forged as well.

6 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:40 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yeah how could he have typed the seal? makes less sense everyday.


7 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:49 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Doctor Raoul

bumpity bump!


8 posted on 06/20/2005 7:22:36 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

VERY eenteresting.


9 posted on 06/20/2005 7:22:53 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; USF; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies

could lead to something very interesting...


10 posted on 06/20/2005 7:23:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yes we must get Dan Blather and his crack team at 60 Minutes to investigate this.


12 posted on 06/20/2005 7:23:56 PM PDT by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I like the goofy glasses highlight on Secret and Prime Minister.

It looks like a still from Court TV's "Forensic Files".

13 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Any idea as to the significance of the shadow of a pair of eyeglasses? Which, by the way, anyone with a working knowledge of optics can tell are fake.

(steely)

15 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

The seal may be the seal/letterhead of an organization he works for -- they are big on that kind of thing over there.


16 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:55 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Doctor Raoul

Today on Rush .. he was discussing the name of Michael Smith and Rush was questioning whether or not there was a Michael Smith who worked with Mary Mapes in Texas. I think Rush established that there is such a person who had some connection to Burkett .. but Rush is investigating whether or not it's the same Michael Smith involved with this story.

And .. it is really the DOWNING STREET MINUTES - it's not a memo. It's the minutes from a meeting.


20 posted on 06/20/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Doctor Raoul

what i find funny is that lack of interest in the fact that this might(IS) just be another fake. it would seem Conservatives just expect fraud and fakes now. should we at this time bring up all those senators who had the downing street memo impeach bush meeting on treason charges? one would think you would vet such things before calling for the head of a country. probably not, same old dumb nice guys.


21 posted on 06/20/2005 7:32:26 PM PDT by postaldave (NOTICE: IF MY POST UPSET YOU, WHAT I SAID WAS SARCASM)
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To: Doctor Raoul
It says "Secret" above the seal but I can't make out what appears to be three letters on the seal itself.
23 posted on 06/20/2005 7:33:16 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Got a real memo from HERE

Maybe the secret memos are different.


24 posted on 06/20/2005 7:33:17 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Doctor Raoul

Actually now that I think about it I am sure Michael Smith was provided with blank letterhead from Downing Street as opposed to actual documents -- much easier that way to type up anything he needs.

One size fits all type of deal.


28 posted on 06/20/2005 7:35:45 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yeah, and plain paper doesn't usually have diffuse shadows of eyeglass frames on it. And rarely is part of the page crisp and the other rest blurry. No one uses courier any more. Etc. If the seal was the only thing you noticed, you have a particularly narrow form of tunnel vision.

It's a graphic. It's an illustration. The fact that it's labeled a "photo" indicates that something is dicey wth the way Reuters labels its images or the way Yahoo reads the labels. If you want to read some kind of conspiracy into that, knock yourself out.


30 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:11 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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OFFF COURSE Dr Raoul go for it

Smack around BBC LOL!


32 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:49 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I hereby nominate Doctor Raoul to be an Honorary Buckhead entitling him to all the perqs and privileges and television interviews that come with it and all that jazz.


33 posted on 06/20/2005 7:37:04 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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Tell Powerline about your find, asap. They are the ones who made Buckhead famous. But I don't think you'll get as famous as him. LOL.

John / Billybob
41 posted on 06/20/2005 7:43:01 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: MadIvan

Any comments on this...


43 posted on 06/20/2005 7:44:34 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I got the very same seal on a message offering me great rewards for my participation in a discreet scheme to transfer funds into the Country, via my Credit Union account.


44 posted on 06/20/2005 7:44:36 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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British "reporter" Michael Smith has told Asociated Press that he copied the original on plain paper and then destroyed the originals.

Nuh-uhhhhhh.

46 posted on 06/20/2005 7:45:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Looks like another Dan Blather wannabe!


47 posted on 06/20/2005 7:47:59 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Doc, you're already famous. See Here.

This is, however, a very interesting development. The fellow's story gets a bit more stretched by the hour - he claims to have tried to "protect his source" by destroying the originals after having his legal secretary retype them...on plain paper...on an old typewriter. Why? And now they have a seal. The story stinks like a mackerel that's been dead for three days in the hot Louisiana sun.

49 posted on 06/20/2005 7:51:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Doctor Raoul

56 posted on 06/20/2005 7:58:09 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: Doctor Raoul; CHARLITE

please keep us posted on where you go with this, DR


57 posted on 06/20/2005 7:58:16 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Secret Seal

Bobby Seale

59 posted on 06/20/2005 8:00:59 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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61 posted on 06/20/2005 8:01:51 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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Anyone having any luck with those letters on the AP picture of the seal?


62 posted on 06/20/2005 8:02:42 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Wel, well, well. How interesting. No matter where I look, the only pictures of the supposed Downing Street memos are this Reuters "eyeglasses" shot, which shows virtually nothing.

Perhaps the media doesn't want the pajamahadeen looking too carefully at the actual document, giving the Rathergate fraud.


65 posted on 06/20/2005 8:03:40 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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We really have to stop meeting like this, Doc.............FRegards


67 posted on 06/20/2005 8:03:53 PM PDT by gonzo (My eyes always water-up when I'm having sex. Must be that damned pepper-spray those broads use...)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Good job pointing out the seal. Like Freeper 'Motherbear' asked, "Why the seal if he wasn't trying to pass it off as a copy of the real thing?"

When I first heard that this reporter scrounged up an "old-fashioned typewriter" to "copy" the memos, I figured he was a forger. It's 2005 - - if he was openly making copies, why wouldn't he just do it on his computer? He only came forward with his admission when he realized he was stone-cold caught. In other words, his "admission" to the AP was preemptive.

The only thing left to be seen is how much (if any) integrity his newspaper has.


68 posted on 06/20/2005 8:05:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Did he really destroy them, type them on plain paper?

The man FIRST said that he copied the originals then gave the originals back to attorneys.

Then he typed from the copies and then destroyed the copies.

After reading some FReepers post of the stern penalties possible in Great Britain I suggest that he may have changed his story in an attempt to head off further inquiry.

73 posted on 06/20/2005 8:11:09 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To anyone looking at the image with your own software, it helps to emboss the image to draw out the highlights adding depth to the image.
78 posted on 06/20/2005 8:12:28 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yes, you may be famous too but only for fifteen minutes. Good work!


82 posted on 06/20/2005 8:15:24 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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Be careful what you wish for...the coming media anal exam probably won't be pleasant.


89 posted on 06/20/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by Dianna
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BUMP!


93 posted on 06/20/2005 8:29:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Doctor Raoul

Did you get a hold of Dom?


96 posted on 06/20/2005 8:30:52 PM PDT by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!-)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Who cares if they are fake? There is nothing remotely controversial or interesting in the memos in the first place. Regardless of the feeble minded attempts of liberals screaming "DOWNING STREET MEMOS!" over and over at each other in internet chat rooms.


99 posted on 06/20/2005 8:33:45 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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We, your fellow Freepers, dub thee, "Doctor Raoul Buckhead"

Well done.


113 posted on 06/20/2005 8:50:49 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Progressivism : a brain eating bacteria, that eats, craps and departs, leaving only sh*t for brains.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
The linked Reuters page adds:

"Recommend THIS PHOTO.... Recommend It: "

It seems that Reuters was just conducting a PhotoShop image contest.......... The eyeglasses in the image were a nice touch.

Be that as it may, anybody could claim to have transcribed the original of any document and then destroyed the originals.

I transcribed the original confession where John Kerry admitted to sabotaging Senator Heinz's aircraft so that he could later marry Teresa Heinz and live off a $550 million fortune. Of course, I destroyed the originals to protect my sources.

118 posted on 06/20/2005 8:58:17 PM PDT by Polybius
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Doctor Raoul, you are ALREADY famous like Buckhead. Next we must discover if you can bend it like Beckham!


119 posted on 06/20/2005 9:04:17 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

hmmmmm...


121 posted on 06/20/2005 9:08:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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For later reading.


132 posted on 06/20/2005 9:45:42 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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To: Doctor Raoul

Sorry to burst the bubble of all the conspiracy theorists, but the DSM is supposed to be the minutes of a meeting of high level British officials. If somebody just made it up, they would've officially denied it by now, instead of just saying no comment.


135 posted on 06/20/2005 10:03:38 PM PDT by jtullins
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What's most bizarre about the seal is that, if you magnify the image in Photoshop, it appears to be a *raised* seal.

It may be a photocopy and the raised seal has merely been duplicated as a function of shadow. It doesn't look that way to me, however. It may be an original. There's no way it's simply been retyped on plain paper using an old typewriter.

I suppose it's possible that the seal could have been duplicated using a rubber stamp and then photocopied, but then it's evident that the journalist's story is a complete lie.

139 posted on 06/21/2005 1:12:51 AM PDT by Reactionary
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Can I Be Famous Like Buckhead?

I thought you already were.

Ah, well. You do know the Famous FReepers secret handshake, dont you?

142 posted on 06/21/2005 1:35:46 AM PDT by lowbridge
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