Frist blows Graham's and DeWine's cover on judicial nominations deal

The Hill ^ | 06/21/05 | Alexander Bolton

[PhiKapMom]

I just spent a week in Ohio at my Mom's -- boy was I glad to get back to Conservative Oklahoma. When people talk of RINO's they must mean Ohio. I hope a conservative can take out DeWine -- that State has gone too moderate to suit me. When I crossed the border into Kentucky, I celebrated to be back in the south.

[Soul Seeker]

Sorry, you are wrong.

The gang of 14 voted for cloture.

Ending the filibuster.

Frist could not call for a rules change without an active filibuster.

[PhiKapMom]

Frist was not a party to the agreement and did NOT take the Constitutional Option off the table.

[Soul Seeker]

I was on many threads at the time. I do not recall him EVER stating agreement.

[Soul Seeker]

I'd settle for even a moderate IF they were loyal to the Party, rather then McCain, MSM and Dems.

[PhiKapMom]

I think Ohio has two of the worst Senators. I actually understand Snowe and Collins being from Maine. I don't understand Voinivich and DeWine especially DeWine. Anyone following McCain from a State like Ohio and especially SC needs defeated IMHO.

BTW, Frist did not agree to take the Constitutional Option off the table nor did he agree to be part of the agreement -- you are correct.

[Soul Seeker]

http://theblackkettle.blogspot.com/2005/05/senator-frist-on-filibuster.html

Bill Frist: 'So let me say this: Senate Republicans reserve the right to use the constitutional option. And we've demonstrated, if necessary, we will not hesitate to use it. We have the votes to use the constitutional option. If the Democrats' campaign of judicial obstruction returns, we will not allow the Constitution to be sacrificed.'

http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1641

Frist said he wasn't a part of the RINO deal, and wouldn't have signed on becaue people got thrown overboard. Deal is silent on Saad and Myers, no certainly to Kavanaugh and others. Frist says that the others not mentioned in this deal have to go through Committee and he'll take them to the floor. Rightfully asking "Who will they call "extraordinary"?" If they filibuster I'll go w/ nuclear option.

[sirthomasthemore]

He rolled over.

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You tell 'em, Reb. -o:)

[Soul Seeker]

Ohio is drifting left, but I contend the reason is because the Republicans in that state have become corrupt Liberals. This is why I want Blackwell elected.

I posted two different sources of Frist's comments. very few were as active as I was in those threads for months. Frist did not take it off the table.

It can be questioned if he'll bring kavanaugh, Myers and the others to the floor. he hasn't yet done so. That would deserve rebuke if he does not and I admit increasingly impatiance. But I won't allow he took it off the table when he clearly did not, nor allow the idea the rules change could occur without a standing filibuster.

as a side note he COULD jhave called for a rule change with Bolton, but i suspect the W.H. prefers to recess and save the nuclear option solely for judges.

[grey_whiskers]

From an earlier thread:

Here is Lindsay Graham:

compared to Jonathan Edwards:

and Mike DeWine:

and his alter ego from aiders of the Lost Ark.

Full Disclosure: Cheers!

[Howlin]

Trent Lott is saying he's going to be the next speaker.

[sirthomasthemore]

RE: Your comments Frist never said what he said.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411980/posts?page=92#92

In significant part:

"So, did Frist cave? Admittedly. In his recent floor speech, he said the following: “The moment of truth was to have come on May 24. But action was preempted by an agreement between seven Republicans and seven Democrats to forestall use of the Constitutional option in exchange for confirmation votes on several nominees and a promise that filibusters would only be maintained in extraordinary circumstances. I was not a party to that agreement nor was the Republican Leadership.”

He then concluded:

“If filibusters again erupt UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES OTHER THAN EXTRAORDINARY , we will put the Constitutional option back on the table and move to implement it. “

By his acceptance of the filibuster in “extraordinary circumstances”, he acceded to the agreement. I don’t see how that is not the import of his exact words.

Had he said, “14 senators have entered an agreement, which I was not a party to and I do not recognize as valid and binding of the Senate, and therefore I will move to end debate on any filibuster of judicial nominees”- he would have remained steadfast and consistent with his own principles and beliefs.

But, he didn’t."

5/28/05)

[lunarbicep]

ping

[Saundra Duffy]

I can't begin to tell you how disgusted I am with Frist. NO GUTS NO GLORY!!! He was on Sean Hannity radio today and I thought I was going to throw up. I was yelling in the car! Frist is going to WRITE A LETTER to Durbin I guess to say some polite junk about how Durbin should not have bad-mouthed our military. Frist says Durbin did not violate any rules of the Senate. So he's going to WRITE A LETTER! Oh, now that's going to put Durbin in his place. Sure thing.

Leave it to the Republicans. With friends like that, we don't need any enemies.

[Howlin]

and young Master Lindsey Graham, eager to tutor George W. Bush on Social Security reform and dreaming of beating out Chuck Hagel as John McCain Lite.

Wow. That's just devastating.

[Republican Wildcat]

Apparently he doesn't really want a second term when he is up in 2008 - I have a feeling his tone will be changing when the next attempt at a filibuster is made.

[onyx]

HA! A couple of weeks ago they were taking media bows. Are the chickens coming home to roost?

[Soul Seeker]

Check #47

Frist-"Rightfully asking "Who will they call "extraordinary"?" If they filibuster I'll go w/ nuclear option."

As stated, extrodinary was undefined. he queries what they find extrodinary. You can believe otherwise, but when discussed in great detail Frist mocks the term as impossible to adher to.

In every interview given he defies your reading of his remarks.

[Petronski]

HA! A couple of weeks ago they were taking media bows. Are the chickens coming home to roost?

Here's a very disturbing new
photo of Senator Graham:

[flaglady47]

I was listening to Major Garret on Tony Snow's program today, and he was decidedly not liberal about the subject at hand.

Major Garrett left, I forget, CNN or MSNBC, to come to Fox. Garrett is conservative. Garrett is very respected as a reporter. He is thorough and fair. I really like him. Don't understand those that don't. Brit Hume likes him too, and if he's all right with Brit, he's all right with me.