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Conspiracy Theories: If you liked The Da Vinci Code, you'll love the Downing Street Memo.
SLATE ^ | 6/21/05 | Christophe Hitchins

Posted on 06/21/2005 10:26:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone

A few weeks ago, at an airport in Europe, I saw Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code staring at me across the bookstore bins. I had seen it many times before and averted my gaze, but I was facing a long delay, and I suddenly thought: May as well get it over with.

Well, of course I knew it would be bad. I just didn't know that it would be that bad. Never mind for now the breathless and witless style, or the mashed-paper characters, or the lazy, puerile reliance on incredible coincidence to flog the lame plot along. What if it was all true? What if the Nazarene had had issue, in fleshly form, with an androgynous disciple? The Catholic Church would look foolish but, then, it already looks foolish enough on the basis of the official story. "Opus Dei," according to Brown, is a sinister cult organization. Excuse me, but I already knew this, so to speak, independently.

Over the past month, I have hardly been able to open my e-mail without a flood of similarly portentous tripe concerning the "Downing Street Memo(s)." This time, it is not the interior of a Templar Church but the style of a clerk in the British Foreign Office that furnishes "the key to all mythologies." A former CIA hand named Ray McGovern has challenged me to debate about the "smoking gun" contained in the Downing Street palimpsests, and I have agreed, in principle. Other correspondents have helpfully added other "smoking guns" as e-mail attachments. A man named Morgan Reynolds, a former chief economist at the Bush Labor Department and now an instructor at Texas A&M, has proof that the World Trade Center was laid low by a "controlled demolition" and not by the hijacked planes. This is a refreshing change from the Gore Vidal view that the Bush administration knowingly grounded all military aircraft in order to give the al-Qaida teams a clear shot. But perhaps both those theories are congruent: One wouldn't want to exclude any options if one were a Republican seeking to incinerate the downtown business HQ of capitalist globalization.

I am not one of those who uses the term "conspiracy theory" as an automatic sneer of dismissal. Conspiracies do occur. I spent a lot of my life at one point trying to show that William Casey of the Reagan-era CIA had made a private deal with the Iranian hostage-takers in 1979, inducing them to keep their prisoners until the Carter administration had been defeated, and I still firmly believe that something of the sort (which eventually culminated in the Iran-Contra underworld) was at least attempted. So do many senior members of both parties in Washington, with whom I am still in touch.

But the main Downing Street document does not introduce us to any hidden or arcane or occult knowledge. As Fred Kaplan wrote in Slate last week, it explains no mystery. As protagonist Jim Dixon observes in another context in Lucky Jim, it is remarkable for "its niggling mindlessness, its funereal parade of yawn-enforcing facts, the pseudo-light it threw upon non-problems." On a visit to Washington in the prelude to the Iraq war, some senior British officials formed the strong and correct impression that the Bush administration was bent upon an intervention. Their junior note-taker committed the literary and political solecism of saying that intelligence findings and "facts" were being "fixed" around this policy.

Well, if that doesn't prove it, I don't know what does. We apparently have an administration that can, on the word of a British clerk, "fix" not just findings but also "facts." Never mind for now that the English employ the word "fix" in a slightly different way—a better term might have been "organized."

We have been here before. In an interview with Sam Tanenhaus for Vanity Fair more than two years ago, Paul Wolfowitz allowed that, though there were many reasons to seek the removal of Saddam Hussein, the legal minimum basis for it was to be sought, inside the U.S. government bureaucracy and at the United Nations, in the unenforced resolutions concerning WMD. At the time, this mild observation was also hailed as a full confession of perfidy.

I am now forced to wonder: Who is there who does not know that the Bush administration decided after September 2001 to change the balance of power in the region and to enforce the Iraq Liberation Act, passed unanimously by the Senate in 1998, which made it overt American policy to change the government of Iraq? This was a fairly open conspiracy, and an open secret. Given that everyone from Hans Blix to Jacques Chirac believed that Saddam was hiding weapons from inspectors, it made legal sense to advance this case under the banner of international law and to treat Saddam "as if" (and how else?) his strategy of concealment and deception were prima facie proof. The British attorney general—who has no jurisdiction in these 50 states—was worried that "regime change" alone would not be a sufficient legal basis. One appreciates his concern. But the existence of the Saddam regime was itself a defiance of all known international laws, and we had before us the consequences of previous failures to act, in Bosnia and Rwanda, where action would have been another word for "regime change."

Many in the British Foreign Office, like many in the American State Department and the CIA, felt more comfortable with the status quo as they knew it (which might explain the hapless references elsewhere in the memos to Iraq's "Sunni majority"). But theirs is only one opinion among many. How odd that the American left, when it is not busy swallowing the unpunctuated words of the CIA, follows this with another helping of wisdom from the most reactionary institution of the British state.

If such a "left" is not careful, it will end up consoling itself in futile bitterness and resentment in the way that the Old Right used to do: by brooding on the hellish manner in which FDR told the Japanese to "bring it on" at Pearl Harbor. (The anti-war right of today, led by Pat Buchanan, was raised and nurtured on this very fantasy, as were Gore Vidal and the other Charles Lindbergh fans.) I am in favor of taking such theories at face value, as a thought experiment, to see how they pan out. It is clear that Roosevelt hoped that the Japanese empire would make a mistake and furnish a pretext for war: The plain evidence of this hope is what keeps the conspiracy theory alive. I myself rather doubt that he would have wanted to start such a war with the loss of the Pacific Fleet, but still, he did think a confrontation was inevitable, as indeed it was. And William Casey may have seen the chance for a double coup: taking credit for the release of the Iranian hostages and discrediting Jimmy Carter into the bargain. But if it had all come out at the time, and been proven, would this change my attitude to Japanese imperialism or to Iranian hostage-taking theocracy? Certainly not. The demand would be to impeach those responsible in Washington and to form a national bipartisan alliance to fight even harder against our enemies, and in defense of our friends.

Full circle, then: The outrage about the nondisclosures in the Downing Street memos has led Congressman Walter Jones of North Carolina to demand that we tell the al-Qaida forces in Iraq exactly when we intend to give up. Jones is the right-wing bigmouth who once wanted to rename French fries "freedom fries." He was a moral and political cretin when he did that and, not to my surprise, he has been unable to stop being a moral and political cretin since. He and his new friends are welcome to each other. They illustrate exactly how the credulous search for Da Vinci codes is the sign of feeble minds.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: britishmemo; conspiracytheory; downingstreetmemo; hitchens; raymcgovern; tinfoil

1 posted on 06/21/2005 10:26:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: prairiebreeze; Mo1

Bump for later read and thought you two might be interested in this.


2 posted on 06/21/2005 10:29:50 AM PDT by Peach
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To: areafiftyone

bookmark


3 posted on 06/21/2005 10:33:24 AM PDT by federal
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To: areafiftyone

Oh, I dunno...The DaVinci Code is better and more engaging than anything on TV. It beats the movie "BATMAN", I'll bet, and probably most Gollywood fare. I dig Art History and all that jazz.


4 posted on 06/21/2005 10:37:57 AM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: areafiftyone

The moron who produced these so-called "Downing Street Memos" lost all of his credibility when he admitted to creating them himself. There is NO PROOF that the originals ever actually existed and that they were "leaked" to him. The DUmmies might be buying it but I'm not. I remember Rather's National Guard memos. This is like deja vu all over again.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 10:42:29 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: areafiftyone

I absolutely ADORE Chris Hitchens. An excellent writer and fascinating man, as always his analysis is dead-on. I'd love, love, love to have dinner (and a drink or two) with him.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 10:44:41 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: purpleland
If you liked DVC, you should read Eco's The Name of the Rose. It's much better written and the history is accurate.
7 posted on 06/21/2005 10:46:50 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Peach

Congressman Walter Jones of North Carolina to demand that we tell the al-Qaida forces in Iraq exactly when we intend to give up. Jones is the right-wing bigmouth who once wanted to rename French fries "freedom fries."

***This best describes Senator Dick Durbin, Ill. "He was a moral and political cretin..." when he said that re comparing US with nazis and other genocidal tyrants. Durbin "has been unable to stop being a moral and political cretin since."

I don't use Heinz on my Freedom Fries! Heinz doesn't go with Freedom. Heinz (funds) goes with Andy Warhol's degeneracy.


8 posted on 06/21/2005 10:50:21 AM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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marking


9 posted on 06/21/2005 10:50:46 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: areafiftyone
As protagonist Jim Dixon observes in another context in Lucky Jim, it is remarkable for "its niggling mindlessness, its funereal parade

Aha!! What a racist comment!
Obviously, he believes that all blacks are brainless -- brain-dead even! -- and we should have a parade at their funerals!

TS
(Hey, it could be interpreted that way ... if a Republican wrote it ...)

10 posted on 06/21/2005 10:51:26 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: purpleland

Ollie North this morning on FNC called Durbin an aging anti-war protestor. LOL


11 posted on 06/21/2005 10:51:52 AM PDT by Peach
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To: twigs
I found the film version of The Name of the Rose memorable even though flawed.
12 posted on 06/21/2005 10:53:50 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: areafiftyone

Christopher Hitchens is just mean ....why does he laugh at the poor deluded liberals?


13 posted on 06/21/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: twigs

"If you liked DVC, you should read Eco's The Name of the Rose. It's much better written and the history is accurate."

***Oh! I agree. The Name of the Rose is brilliant. Umberto Eco finally received a Nobel Prize in Literature, I believe.

Eco - Biography of Umberto Eco
Umberto Eco, Eco, Name of the Rose, Foucault's Pendulum, Milan, Bologna, Postmodern, Linguistics, Semiotics, Philology, Deconstruction, Misreadings, Island of the Day Before, Hyperreality, Piedmont ...
www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_biography.html Cached page 6/20/2005


14 posted on 06/21/2005 10:55:17 AM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: areafiftyone
They got to Hitchens!

I wonder what BFEE found in his file...

15 posted on 06/21/2005 10:55:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Trust but Verify

I do, too. I have to disagree with him about the DaVinci Code - I thought it was a good read - but I sure agree with everything else he says in this article. Even if there's a kernel of truth somewhere in the re-typed memos, it's meaningless.


16 posted on 06/21/2005 10:56:03 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: dead

LOL The DUmmies must have bombarded every outlet they could think of with e-mails.


17 posted on 06/21/2005 10:57:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: woofie

The DUmmies are calling him all sorts of names now. Ya know you can't disagree with them otherwise you get hate mail and nasty little phone calls - if you agree you are a hero and get flowers! ISN'T THAT SPEEEEEECIAL????


18 posted on 06/21/2005 10:59:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
A man named Morgan Reynolds, a former chief economist at the Bush Labor Department and now an instructor at Texas A&M

Ack! Number one, it's Prarie View A&M, which is not even close to being the same as TAMU. Number two, he's not even an instructor there; he's a professor emeritus because he had taught there for at least 10 years...
19 posted on 06/21/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: dead

Well, it wasn't in his file, exactly. It was in this here copy of his file that I had my secretary type up on plain paper...no, really...


20 posted on 06/21/2005 11:01:29 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Trust but Verify
"I'd love, love, love to have dinner (and a drink or two) with him."

As long as you understand he's no conservative, fine. He's that rarity, a non-partisan liberal who actually takes the Islamofascists at their word and thinks they must be stopped. As for the "drink or two," from what I've heard of Hitchens, you'd start with that and take it from there.
21 posted on 06/21/2005 11:01:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: areafiftyone

This is the best refutation of the DSM I have seen


22 posted on 06/21/2005 11:02:21 AM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: areafiftyone

Bump


23 posted on 06/21/2005 11:04:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: purpleland

I'm reading it now and can hardly put it down. Just bought Foucault's Pendulum to read next. One review I read said that Dan Brown must have taken his ideas for DVC from it. I just got back from Italy and I'm loving the history in this book. Helps me understand better what I saw and experienced.


24 posted on 06/21/2005 11:04:56 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Steve_Seattle

He's honest. No BS from Chris. Liberal or conservative, I appreciate that. I'm sure he'd drink me under the table before the entrees were served, but it'd be fun.


25 posted on 06/21/2005 11:08:21 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: areafiftyone

The DUmmies are organizing their typical email campaign to the author calling him every name in the book. Wonder when they will figure out that the recipients of these orchestrated emails from them just delete them without even pausing.


26 posted on 06/21/2005 11:13:02 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: Trust but Verify
"He's honest. No BS from Chris."

He's serious about fighting the Islamist threat and he saw through the mendacity of the Clintons, so he's shown himself to put principle above partisanship. I'll give him credit for that, but I'm not sure I'd agree that he never spouts BS. I think I might have spouted BS on occasion, and I think I've seen Hitchens do it as well, but I don't recall a specific instance. (Although he was brutal in his book about Mother Theresa, I don't remember the exact thrust of his argument.)
27 posted on 06/21/2005 11:18:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: WBL 1952

LOL I feel sorry for anyone who has an e-mail address who opposes the DUmmies. Hell hath no fury like a DUmmie's Brain exploding!


28 posted on 06/21/2005 11:19:17 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
Hitchens, like David Horowitz, understands the soft underbelly and essential simplemindedness and gullibility of the liberals. Good luck to anyone who wants to debate this type of thing with the razor tongued Hitchens.

The DSM "fixes" but three things: Everybody believed that Saddam had WMD; Nobody believed KA and the UN would or could do anything to make Saddam abide by the terms and conditions of the ceasefire and various UN resolutions; Few people will let the facts or what is plainly written get in the way of their preconceptions.
29 posted on 06/21/2005 11:24:56 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: andyk

Excellent fact checking. We need to keep all journalists on their toes, especially the ones with whom we agree. Reality and facts are a conservative's strongest ally and the left's worst nightmare.


30 posted on 06/21/2005 11:28:57 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: andyk
Ack! Number one, it's Prarie View A&M, which is not even close to being the same as TAMU. Number two, he's not even an instructor there; he's a professor emeritus because he had taught there for at least 10 years...

Hmmm...you're saying that this isn't him?
http://econweb.tamu.edu/profInfo.asp?id=23

It's "Morgan Reynolds, Professor Emeritus of Labor Economics" (at the TAMU website). Published in Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics, which sure sounds like his kinda place.

31 posted on 06/21/2005 11:51:41 AM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: bjc

Sorry...meant to ping you on my post.


32 posted on 06/21/2005 11:52:07 AM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: areafiftyone; All
I have followed, documented, and debunked this fake, but accurate memo:

Downingstreetmemo- Smoke, but where's the Fire?

...to a fare-thee-well.

Yet I note 'true believers in the perfidy of the infinitely clever and evil ( yet too stupid to walk & chew gum at the same time ) "Boosh!"' remain unconvincable- they really think they can topple this administration with baked wind and monkey doodle ( hat tip to P.J. O'Rourke )-- so be it. Tilt at windmills and call them Giants- they're still windmills...

33 posted on 06/21/2005 12:05:52 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: areafiftyone
I spent a lot of my life at one point trying to show that William Casey of the Reagan-era CIA had made a private deal with the Iranian hostage-takers in 1979, inducing them to keep their prisoners until the Carter administration had been defeated, and I still firmly believe that something of the sort (which eventually culminated in the Iran-Contra underworld) was at least attempted.

Isn't it more likely that the opposite was true, viz that Carter tried to negotiate a release BEFORE the election, in order to try to defeat Reagan?

34 posted on 06/21/2005 12:48:38 PM PDT by rudy45
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To: andyk

To Clarify even more:

Texas A&M President Robert M. Gates said in a statement that Reynolds' views are in his capacity as a private citizen and do no reflect the views of the university.

"The American people know what they saw with their own eyes on September 11, 2001," Gates said. "To suggest any kind of government conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale."

Gates pointed out that Reynolds is retired and holds the title of professor emeritus, "an honorary title bestowed upon select tenured faculty who have retired with 10 or more years of service."

Countering some news reports, Gates said that while some faculty emeriti have office space on the campus, Reynolds does not.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44816


35 posted on 06/21/2005 1:54:05 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: rudy45

and what Hitchens didn't mention explicitly is that the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998 was introduced by Bill Clinton and passed with an overwhelming majority including gasp Democrats including John Kerry and Al Gore

and the act I believe essentially says since it is impossible to verify whether Iraq has disarmed as per the ceasefire agreement regime change is the only way to verify

and hey Bubba was right.....


36 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:23 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: areafiftyone

37 posted on 06/21/2005 2:43:56 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (don't piss on my koran and tell me it's raining.)
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To: areafiftyone

Hitchins gives a slap to all moral cretins in this article. Tell us what you really think Hitch!


38 posted on 06/21/2005 3:21:59 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: areafiftyone
Well, if that doesn't prove it, I don't know what does. We apparently have an administration that can, on the word of a British clerk, "fix" not just findings but also "facts." Never mind for now that the English employ the word "fix" in a slightly different way—a better term might have been "organized."

I am so pleased someone else to finally cleared that up. That penguin picture is perfect for what I think about the DUmmies' position now!

The DUmmies have been whining about this President being another "Teflon President". Hot digety!

39 posted on 06/21/2005 7:10:33 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Peach

Thanks so much, Peach, for posting this. A friend e-mailed me an editorial in his local N.C. paper that praised Jones for his "moral courage."

He doesn't agree. of course. The editor is a woman, a relative, I believe, of the newspaper's owner. He calls her "the editrix."

In one of her first editorials she wrote about people "criticizing Communism while the Communists fed the hungry."
In a later one she referred to the Bill of Rights as "that list of priveleges."

Her detestation of President Bush and Republicans, and her ignorance of history, seem to drive her to an intemperant silliness that is a source of amusement and sorrow to my friend and his friends. They respected the previous editor who was also the owner.

Unfortunately, Jones is a fixture in that Congressional seat, as was his father, a Democrat. Jones was a Democrat all his life until he lost his bid for the seat and switched to the Republican Party.

Eastern NC is tobacco country. The richest people in the area, all white, did very well with Jones arranging their tax-payer supported 'baccy allotments. Unless the military people and the regular working people turn on him, the rich white Democrats will keep him right there working for them, as his father did.


40 posted on 06/21/2005 8:57:54 PM PDT by Barset
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To: areafiftyone; Peach

I Thought Peach had posted this and sent a response to her. Sorry for that. Thank you for posting it. I was hunting for a Hitchens' column about the Downing St. memo, knew it would be a scorcher.

I wish everyone on Free Republic would buy Hitchens' latest book "Love, Poverty, And War; Journeys and Essays." He verbally kicks Michael Moore back into the gutter, and dismisses him for the opportunistic lout that he is.

I think everyone should be made to read his "Visit to a Small Planet" about his sojourn in North Korea, which is in the book under "War -- Before September." It is almost unbearable to read in parts. Men. women and children have died in the millions of starvation there, and continue to do so. The elites wax fat, as they always do.

But we are so used to people dying in the millions, from slaughter or hunger, it takes someone of Hitchens' genius to scald us with the reality of what it means, as when he writes of North Korea..."a morbid system so many of whose children have died with grass in their mouths."

Thanks again, Area. b



41 posted on 06/21/2005 10:06:41 PM PDT by Barset
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To: Barset

I just finished Mona Charen's book Do-Gooders which should be required reading across the country; the Democrats couldn't get elected dog catcher if more people read that book. So I'm always looks for a good read and am glad to hear you mention Hitchens book; it's on the list now. Thank you.


42 posted on 06/22/2005 4:38:12 AM PDT by Peach
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To: backhoe

Keep up the great work. You own my research files.


43 posted on 06/22/2005 9:50:00 AM PDT by dervish (multilateralism is the lowest common denominator)
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To: bjc

Hitchens and Horowitz are very different.

Hitchens is a one issue, WOT, atheist, Israel averse, neocon.

Horowitz is a born again, long term Conservative convert.

What they have in common is that due to past affilitions with the left they know how to fight like the left, dirty. I have heard Horowitz say that Conservatives are too nice.

Perhaps there is hope for the Hitch.


44 posted on 06/22/2005 9:56:55 AM PDT by dervish (multilateralism is the lowest common denominator)
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To: dervish

I appreciate the encouragement- thanks.


45 posted on 06/22/2005 9:58:17 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: areafiftyone
So Where Did They Get the Seal From?

The curious story of how the Downing Street Memo's got to the media just took a direct hit. Reuters has a photo of the documents released to press with a government seal on them.



The problem is, of course, that the PDF's of the memos don't have these seals on them. Further, the reporter claimed he typed them on a plain manual typewriter.

Some people may cling to the foolish belief that a simple manual typewriter could produce the Dan Rather memos, but I can promise you you can't make that seal with a typewriter.

Then where did the seal come from? Did Reuters fake the picture to make the pain paper versions look official? Did the reporter type them on a paper with seals on them? Somebody is not telling the whole story.

I don't know what(yet) but something is amiss. Buckhead II???

Kevin adds: Paul kicked the story over to me to followup on the 6 PDF's released by Michael Smith, the author of the original Times Online article on the Downing Street Memo. Smith admitted to getting copies of the memos, retyping them, then destroying the copies. Here are the 6 PDF's. No seals in any of them.

Kevin adds a final update: The lack of seals is now make sense. What is pictured is most assuredly not the Downing Street Memo, nor is it one of the 6 memos the author of the original story, Just to be clear what Reuters claims about the photo, the caption to the photo is, "A copy of the so-called 'Downing Street Memo', produced in July 2002 for Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair on the legality of the invasion of Iraq. Photo by Stephen Hird/Reuters."

As ed points out in the comment section, the document in question is not the Downing Street Memo. The PDF shown in the Reuters photo comes from an April 28, 2005 Guardian Unlimited story (which predates the original DSM story in at Times Online) detailing Lord Goldsmith's (the British attorney general) March 7. 2003 confidential advice on the legality of the Iraq war.

As Seixon points out:

There are 6 documents from September that Michael Smith took copies of, returned to the government, then retyped, then destroyed the copies. At least two of these are quoted by the Butler Commission Report, and Michael Smith covered the contents of all of them in his September 18, 2002 news stories with the Daily Telegraph. These news stories featured partial pictures of the copies of two of the originals.

There are two more documents that there is no information on when they were received by Smith. These are the Downing Street Memo, and the Briefing Paper. There are no PDFs for these, and there is no indication that they were copied from originals, either.

Reuters photo fraud notwithstanding...


-- Paul, http://wizbangblog.com/archives/006241.php
46 posted on 06/22/2005 10:26:56 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Cross-reference: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427053/posts


47 posted on 06/22/2005 10:41:52 AM PDT by OESY
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To: twigs

The Illustrated DVC was the first book I've read by Dan Brown. Because I am an amateur artist as well as an aficionado, and was an Art History minor in college, and because I've never travelled to Paris, and never toured the Louvre, I devoured DVC. What a trip! Since devouring DVC, I've read Brown's Angels and Demons which was another intriguing adventure. Like you, I will next read Foucault's Pendulum.

How FORTUNATE you are to have travelled to Italy!

I'll get back to you re: Foucault's Pendulum.


48 posted on 06/22/2005 2:32:30 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: Peach

North should have said an immature "aging anti-war protestor". Durbin - another leftover hippie peacenik.

No sane person loves war just as only an insane person believes that protesting war will make the enemy go away.


49 posted on 06/22/2005 3:07:32 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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