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Minutemen militia poses a danger in Texas
Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | June 22, 2005 | Corpus Christi Caller-Times Editorial Board

Posted on 06/22/2005 6:45:57 AM PDT by Marauder

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To: politicalwit

oh really! I didn't know that...

Well we are watching our country go to hell in a hand basket!
And the longer it takes to straighten this mess out; the longer and more expensive it will be.


41 posted on 06/22/2005 8:28:20 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: muawiyah
The difference between the Minutemen and a posse is a very thin one.

Well, you know, the posse has a long and illustrious history in Texas. I don't really see the objection, as long as laws are obeyed.

42 posted on 06/22/2005 8:30:44 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
Could be the difference between a posse and a militia is small, but we were discussing the use of an unarmed group of observers, and these "newsies" came up with the idea that folks were proposing an armed militia be sent down there to shoot Mexicans.

Whether or not the Mexicans should be shot, or deserve to be shot, isn't the issue ~ rather, it's why the "newsies" are always thinking of shooting people and never once of Ghandi's non-violent resistance.

It's the AIDS thing, and the drink too, right?

43 posted on 06/22/2005 8:39:13 AM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah
Whether or not the Mexicans should be shot, or deserve to be shot, isn't the issue...

I don't think they deserve to be shot. But shooting the bad guys was not the posse's normal purpose, either...the purpose of the posse was to bring the bad guy in for trial, if he could be so brought.

44 posted on 06/22/2005 8:46:58 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Why would we wish to bring the Mexicans "in"? Don't we want to keep them "out"?


45 posted on 06/22/2005 8:47:53 AM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


46 posted on 06/22/2005 9:36:54 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Marauder
U.S. Drug Trade is Run By Mexican Paramiltary !

A Mexican paramilitary group trained by the U.S. in running the cocaine trade in the U.S. This group is expanding its influence every day. They are now operating in seven states and will be in your state very soon. NAFTA enables drug traffickers. The proof is in the pudding and the mixture is corrupt as hell. The corruption is wide and deep and extends to top Mexican and U.S. officials.

Read Reports Here

47 posted on 06/22/2005 9:56:48 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Marauder
The difference between the Corpus Crawler-Times editorial board and the belly of a snake is a very thin one.
48 posted on 06/22/2005 10:04:00 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Marauder; YCTHouston; texgal; DaGman; HOYA97; I_Publius; JesseJane; beeler; archy; Drammach; ...

Posse Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


49 posted on 06/22/2005 10:07:30 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: kellynla
"We secure the borders in Korea, Iraq & Afghanistan but we don't even lock our own front and back doors??"

Makes the WoT sort of hard to treat seriously, doesn't it?

50 posted on 06/22/2005 10:30:07 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: MplsSteve
"The most benign threat involves cut fences, ransacking of buildings, and trespassing on private property.

I'd like to see what Bush would do if the illegals ever came by his ranch and did the same things. That's the problem with our politicians - they don't live in the real world once they are elected. We should force them to go back from where they came from and live there six months out of the year. No, they hide in DC and let the citizens suffer from their dereliction of duty.

51 posted on 06/22/2005 10:55:48 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: Marauder

Previous Crawler-Times Minutemen editorial:

http://www.caller.com/ccct/editorials/article/0,1641,CCCT_840_3832275,00.html

'Minutemen' not needed on Texas-Mexico border
June 5, 2005


When self-styled "Minutemen" descended on the border between Arizona and Mexico in April to lend their unsolicited assistance to the U.S. Border Patrol in monitoring illegal immigrants, the result was well short of high drama.

True to their word, they made no attempts to apprehend border-crossers themselves, but claimed to have alerted the Border Patrol to sightings and thus helped in the apprehension of 335 individuals. The Border Patrol, for its part, was studiously noncommittal.

Now the group is reportedly turning its attention to the Texas-Mexico border - but to date their plans have elicited scant enthusiasm here. In fact, there has been an almost solid front of opposition to the notion here.

One critic is a familiar South Texas figure, State Sen. Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, who said Texans are cool to "having vigilante groups from other parts of the country come to our state to try to tell us how to run our business."

In the legislative session, he sponsored a resolution urging Gov. Rick Perry to oppose the Minutemen's plans - and got the signatures of 11 senators.

The governor was tight-lipped, but evinced little enthusiasm for the project. As spokeswoman Kathy Walt pointed out, "ultimately this is a federal issue."

That it is, and considering the potential for disaster attendant on having untrained volunteers wandering around in the underbrush, the sensible course is clear: Let's leave this important, and sensitive, work to the professionals.


52 posted on 06/22/2005 11:22:04 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Servant of the 9
The most valuable thing we own is our American Citizenship. Every time an illegal enters this country, it becomes worth a little bit less.

Amen, So9. Seeing the "big picture" makes it easy to understand why liberals are against border control, for gay marriage, for gun control, for abortion, against capital punishment, for no-fault divorce, ad nauseum: Because the side of every issue they support or fight is taken in order to try to divide the population and create chaos, and tends to aid in their goal of destroying our society.

53 posted on 06/22/2005 11:38:53 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: shellshocked
... I guess me and my friends are all "militia".

"The militia shall consist of all able-bodied male persons, residents of the State, between the ages of eighteen and forty-five years, except such as may be exempted by the laws of the United States or this State, and shall be organized, officered, armed and equipped and trained in such manner as may be provided by law."
1874 Arkansas Constitution, Article 11, Section 1
"The militia is a voluntary force not associated or under the control of the States except when called out"
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper 28

      Most state constitutions had similar provisions a century or so ago; the constitutions have been amended, but only in Newspeak does that change the meaning of the word "militia".

      Down with Newspeak.
54 posted on 06/22/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: SwinneySwitch; Marauder; Celtman
U.S. Drug Trade is Run By Mexican Paramilitary !

A Mexican paramilitary group trained by the U.S. in running the cocaine trade in the U.S. This group is expanding its influence every day. They are now operating in seven states and will be in your state very soon. NAFTA enables drug traffickers. The proof is in the pudding and the mixture is corrupt as hell. The corruption is wide and deep and extends to top Mexican and U.S. officials.

Read Reports Here

We Need the 'Minutemen' because of NAFTA and because neither Mexican or U.S. officials give a damn about open the border. Officials don't give a damn because they are getting rich off the drug trade. 'Nuff said.

55 posted on 06/22/2005 11:47:06 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I will drink to that, bro.


56 posted on 06/22/2005 11:47:39 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I didn't see that editorial; I must've been too busy to read the paper that Sunday. But what it says doesn't surprise me.


57 posted on 06/22/2005 11:51:38 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: Marauder

This is a leftist paper, among the many leftist papers in Texas, that always take the Rat side of every issue and backs Rat candidates at election time. I would guess that most of its staff has had illegal aliens in their background, so don't look for condemnation of those sneaking into this country.


58 posted on 06/22/2005 11:56:52 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Oh, I won't; the only reason I even read the Crawler-Times is that Mrs. Marauder insists upon having a local paper to read at breakfast. When we lived in Houston, it was the one I call the Houston Comical.

Well, almost local; we don't actually live in Corpus Christi, but in the general area.

59 posted on 06/22/2005 12:03:59 PM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: swampfox98

Exactly!

Another poster said pretty much the same thing.

You're right. I wonder how Bush, as a private citizen, would feel about having illegals trespass on, litter on and vandalize his property?

I suspect he wouldn't be a big fan of such benign activities. For that matter, no editorial board member of a newspaper would appreciate it either.



60 posted on 06/22/2005 12:07:31 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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