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NYP: SMILING AT ANTI-SEMITISM - Democrats, you've got a problem
New York Post ^ | June 23, 2005 | Eris Fettmann

Posted on 06/23/2005 5:49:26 AM PDT by OESY

Several leading Democrats have spent the past few days furiously back tracking from an outrageous — and thoroughly under-reported — demonstration of blatant anti-Semitism that manifested itself last week at a congressional quasi-hearing... what the Washington Post's Dana Milbank appropriately described as a "mock impeachment inquiry."

...Democrats... declared the so-called Downing Street Memos to be the unassailable "smoking gun" proving that President Bush lied the nation into war.

Among the hand-picked "witnesses" was Ray McGovern, the former CIA analyst who has embarked on a new career denouncing the administration and, apparently, buying into every conspiracy theory the loony Left has to offer....

"I use the acronym OIL," he said, "O for oil, I for Israel and L for the logistical base necessary or deemed necessary by the so-called neocons — and it reeks through all their documents — the logistical base whereby the United States and Israel could dominate that area of the world."

"It's a very strategically important area of the world," he explained, "mostly because it has oil, but also because Israel, which is traditionally described as our ally — and I don't know of any alliance we had with Israel — has been very influential in our policy."...

The reaction of the House Democrats — some 30 in all, by that point — to McGovern's tirade? Silence, the transcript shows.

Not a word of protest. Not a word of disagreement.

Nothing from John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat who chaired the session. Nothing from legislators like Jerrold Nadler, of Manhattan's West Side. Or Harlem's Charlie Rangel, or Greg Meeks of Queens, or Barney Frank of Massachusetts or Rush Holt from New Jersey.

Meanwhile, reports Milbank, over at Democratic headquarters, activists handed out documents containing accusations that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; antisemitism; barneyfrank; bush; conspiracytheorists; conyers; downingstreet; durbin; gregmeeks; jerroldnadler; larouche; mcgovern; milbank; nazis; oil; rangel; raymcgovern; rushholt; truthers; vips
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1 posted on 06/23/2005 5:49:27 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

And McGovern is from the CIA, has Goss handed out any pink slips lately?


2 posted on 06/23/2005 5:54:10 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

I doubt it. The State Dept and CIA are chock full of liberals who have an anti-Bush agenda.


3 posted on 06/23/2005 5:54:58 AM PDT by deadeyedawg (Crush our enemies, listen to their lamentations, and drive them before us!)
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To: Howlin
Nothing from John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat who chaired the session. Nothing from legislators like Jerrold Nadler, of Manhattan's West Side. Or Harlem's Charlie Rangel, or Greg Meeks of Queens, or Barney Frank of Massachusetts or Rush Holt from New Jersey.
4 posted on 06/23/2005 5:55:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: OESY

not signing into the paper, I googled and found this!

http://www.dalythoughts.com/index.php?p=3731


6/17/2005
When Does A Problem Become Too Big To IgnoreDana Milbank:

The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration ¡°neocons¡± so ¡°the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world.¡± He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

¡°Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,¡± McGovern said. ¡°The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.¡±

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq¡¯s threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his ¡°candid answer.¡±

Lest it be dismissed as just a bizarre exchange between a known kook and an unknown kook,

At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations ¨C that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an ¡°insider trading scam¡± on 9/11 ¨C that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks.

Eventually, one of two things is going to happen. Either Democrat voters will eventually tire of pretending this faction of their party does not exist and will either try to cast them out or will leave the party themselves, or the rest of the country will completely turn away from them.

Faster, please. To any of these outcomes.

Addendum: By the way, it is not only about Iraq that McGovern has some curious views, and it is not just some activists at the Democratic headquarters who were pushing some bizarre 9/11 theories. McGovern has long been a staple of ¡°911Truth.org¡±, including being part of a panel entitled ¡°Reframing 9/11¡å. I also love this press release:

The events have been linked up at www.911truth.org

Cynthia McKinney was the first to raise historic questions about 9/11 from the floor of U.S. Congress, asking what the Bush administration may have known in advance about the attacks and when, and calling for investigation. She was misquoted, misrepresented and finally driven out of Congress, yet vindicated by a number of revelations that the administration had advance knowledge. She will be speaking in the heart of Berlin, Germany on September 5th & 7th.

She will be accompanied by Mike Ruppert - the man who started the original 9/11 timeline and who has made a career of exposing official corruption. This is their first public appearance together. On the 7th, they will be joined at the Tempodrom arena by writers from Britain, Italy and Germany, including Nafeez Ahmed, author of the groundbreaking 9/11 research work The War on Freedom and Daniel Hopsicker, who has broken a number of key stories about the alleged 9/11 hijackers.

McKinney and Ruppert will join former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, Dr. Faiz Kahn, John Judge and others for a forum about 9/11 at the Riverside Church in New York City on Thursday, September 11th. That event will screen the Guerrilla News Network documentary ¡°AfterMath - Unanswered Questions from 9/11¡å and other short documentaries, including Barry Zwicker¡¯s ¡°The Great Deception.¡± The event is sponsored by Pacifica radio¡¯s WBAI in New York.

This is who House Democrats want to bring forward? And do rank and file Democratic voters really want to tolerate this from their party?

Update 2: Should I be surprised that the New York Times reporting on this does not mention anything about the background of this ¡°witness"?

Update 3: Oh, lucky day! I was able to find a fawning review of that forum with McGovern and McKinney and others:

The main event was a panel of experts including McKinney, retired veteran CIA analyst Ray McGovern, veteran activist and researcher John Judge, Schechter, and me. It was not important that each of us agreed totally with the analyses and work of the others. No one was asked, nor expected, to compromise their positions and the event made no attempt to forge a perfect consensus. To have done that would have been to destroy the perfection of the consensus that already existed. What had brought us there together was a shared belief and commitment that the government of the United States was totally out of control and that it had, in just three years, brought the nation and the planet itself to the brink of disintegration and chaos¡­

McGovern went further than ever when he spoke about the administration¡¯s exploitation of 9/11. While not saying outright that the administration knew about the attacks and allowed them to happen, even facilitating them, he implied it. The administration has a lot to hide, he said. He went on to say that Dick Cheney had a lot of chutzpah to show up at the Riverside Church calling him a ¡°Meister of cover up and pointing out that he had turned the FBI loose to intimidate and silence the congressional committees charged with FBI oversight. He labeled the explanation that incompetence within the government had allowed the attacks to succeed as ¡°charitable.¡±

Update 4: Courtesy of the same people who helped bring you the McKinney/McGovern 9/11 forum, we have audio of the hearings.


5 posted on 06/23/2005 5:56:31 AM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Mo1

Are the Jewish Dums paying attention!!!!!!!


6 posted on 06/23/2005 5:57:26 AM PDT by marty60
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To: deadeyedawg
The State Dept and CIA are chock full of liberals who have an anti-Bush agenda.

Correction: The State Dept. and CIA are terrorist sympathizers.

Call them what they are.

7 posted on 06/23/2005 5:57:46 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: marty60

Even if they were, they'd still for Dims.


8 posted on 06/23/2005 6:01:30 AM PDT by deadeyedawg (Crush our enemies, listen to their lamentations, and drive them before us!)
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To: An Old Marine

terrorist sympathizers and liberals, one in the same as far as I can see it. Especially after DICK durbin's recent oral spew. But you are correct, they're anti-American any way you slice it.


9 posted on 06/23/2005 6:02:54 AM PDT by deadeyedawg (Crush our enemies, listen to their lamentations, and drive them before us!)
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To: OESY

over at Democratic headquarters, activists handed out documents containing accusations that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks....


Now I know they've lost their minds. I was always willing before to concede that a fringe of the Democratic party believed this nonsense but if they're going to run with this stupidity they've ceased to be a party and have become merely a holding pen for extremists.


10 posted on 06/23/2005 6:03:59 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: bitt

So tell me if we went over there for the Oil WHY THE HELL AM I PAYING OVER 2.50 PER GALLON???


11 posted on 06/23/2005 6:04:42 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: marty60
the former CIA analyst
12 posted on 06/23/2005 6:05:39 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: An Old Marine
"the logistical base whereby the United States and Israel could dominate that area of the world."

Yeah, America really sucks because old Uncle Sam insists on spreading around that pesky Freedom thing. That is so 80's. When will American conservatives learn that no culture is better than any other?

(sarcasm off)

13 posted on 06/23/2005 6:07:41 AM PDT by subterfuge (Hillary's Operative Cooked the Books! **just keep saying that wherever you go**)
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To: deadeyedawg; marty60
"Are the Jewish Dums paying attention!!!!!!!

Even if they were, they'd still for Dims."

Yes they are, and I wouldn't be too sure about your assumption if I were you. The Jewish Dims are tiring of their lack of support from the left. More Jews are voting with the pubbies but they're not being very public/vocal about their displeasure with the left.

14 posted on 06/23/2005 6:11:10 AM PDT by harpu
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To: Alouette; SJackson; Slings and Arrows; veronica

Ping!


15 posted on 06/23/2005 6:23:29 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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To: OESY
I don't understand why these folks are getting their shorts in wad, after all the Democrat party historically has the party of bigotry. Heck it was founded on the premise of slavery and ethic cleansing and progressed to Jim Crow and lynchings.
A few antisemitic remarks at a party hearing is not too bad when you look at the current party leadership. Think Byrd, Conyers, Waters, Schumer
16 posted on 06/23/2005 6:39:18 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

because you're not paying $5/gallon (yet)

(kinda kidding)


17 posted on 06/23/2005 6:42:42 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: OESY

The dems caught between a rock and hard place. When Dr. Demento Dean came out condemning the vicious anti semitism at Conyer's faux hearing, he brought the episode to the attention of the MSM who had done their best to ignore it.


18 posted on 06/23/2005 6:45:58 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: OESY

A kook and a ex-spook.


19 posted on 06/23/2005 6:52:41 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
20 posted on 06/23/2005 7:18:37 AM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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