[WestCoastGal]

Found this over there (SM)


NL wrote:
I just saw an EXCLUSIVE interview with Paul and Anita van der Sloot on Dutch television! Some interesting details...

- Paul van der Sloot is NOT a suspect anymore; he doesn't want the Dutch media to call him "Paul van der S.", he wants them to use his full last name.
- Paul doesn't want to see his family as the victim. Natalee's family is the victim. He hopes Natalee will be found.
- Anita thinks Natalee is still alive
- On why he was arrested: Paul told the POLICE that he picked up Joran at the Mc Donald's @11PM. But according to Natalee's family the first time they met Paul, Paul said he picked up Joran @4AM. There's also a version that says Paul picked up Joran AND Natalee @4AM. Not true, according to Paul. Natalee's family must misinterpretated his words.
- Natalee's family arrived in Aruba, went to the police office immediately. At 2AM, Paul was sleeping, Natalee's family went to the house of the Van der Sloots. Natalee's mother wants to speak with Joran. But Joran was not home (Paul didn't know that), he was at the casino. Father called son at his mobile. At 3AM Joran was home; Natalee's family interrogated him. Paul told him not to tell them the details, because he was not sure of their "status"/who they were. "You should tell the police what happened".
- Joran also lied to his parents (Holiday Inn story), according to Paul. But now they can explain the reason why he made up the Holiday Inn story, because he was "in panic", etc.
- Joran had sex with Natalee in the car, according to Paul ("vrijen").
- Joran met Natalee at the Holiday Inn. Joran was playing poker ("Free Poker tournament", or something). Natalee invited him to go to Carlos and Charlie's. Joran first didn't want to go.
- Paul IS a judge. A temporary judge. He knows the authorities very well. Paul van Straaten, Marianne Croes. It was very strange to see how his friends/ex-collegues arrested him.
- Paul admits his son is in big trouble, because he made up that Holiday Inn-story.
- Paul first had the idea that he convinced Natalee's mother that his family is not the "key".
- Paul first didn't want to do interviews, because he thinks the most important thing is to find Natalee. His family's problem is just a "side-issue". But now he feels he HAS to say something, because his name is in the American media all the time. He doesn't like the whol American media circus. He thinks the main-issue should be finding Natalee and finding the truth.
- Eh...I think that's a short summary of what he and Anita said in front of Nova cameras....

[WestCoastGal]

Note: There is discussion from those translating that ("vrijen") does not necessarily mean sex. It can mean kissing etc.

[johnb838]

Supposedly UVDS told Anita when NH shows up he's going to kick her butt in front of her parents for getting everybody in trouble. I wished I could go upside his head right there. I heard Anita say this.

[Canadian Outrage]

That's enough to make one want to puke. His name NEEDS to keep being in the American media until these people can tell a truthful story. Makes my blood boil. I see he is trying to cover his A$$ in Holland at least because by the time this case ends, he may NOT have a career left in Aruba. He may become such a political hot potato that they simply will not be able to keep him, the FAILED Judge.

[maggief]

Adding to your post:

That's what I thought too.
But maybe I should correct myself:
Paul himself didn't say he was not a suspect anymore. The reporter said he was not a suspect anymore ("First let to clarify this. It's not like we don't respect his privacy. Paul doesn't want the Dutch media to call him "Van der S.", because he's not a suspect anymore. He wants NOVA to call his full name").

And ONE more interesting detail: according to the reporter, Paul and Anita don't like the way how the police interrogate their son. They are worried about the tactics of the Aruban police. The "Zaanse methode" (an interrogation technique) is a technique that is not allowed in the Netherlands anymore. But in Aruba the police still use that technique (that means there are also differences between the Dutch and the Aruban system: the Aruban system is BASED on the Dutch system, but there are differences).

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Reasons why he was arrested, according to himself:
- 11PM and 4AM
- because the police thinks he taught Joran, Deepak and Satish how to lie

Paul's reaction:
- He has never said he picked up Joran at 4AM. He has always said I picked up Joran at 11PM (Mc Donald's). For some reason the FAMILY told the police that he said to the family that he picked up Joran at 4AM.
And he also said there's a story that he picked up Joran and NATALEE at 4AM (he didn't say where that story comes from).
- He didn't told the kids to lie. Yes, when he had the feeling that the 3 kids might be arrested, he explained the kids the procedure and how to stay calm.

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Can you explain this method to us??[/quote]

This is the decription of that technique:

"De Zaanse verhoormethode": This technique involved a suspect being interrogated intensively for several days, in the course of which he was subjected to different forms of psychological pressure, (shown photographs of the victim’s body and the crime scene, on occasion, together with photographs of members of the suspect's family, the suggestion being made that the latter had received telephone threats and the indication being given that they would be protected by the police if a confession was provided). In three cases, the Dutch Courts (2) ruled that the use of this technique had violated Section 29 of the Code of Criminal Procedure (which prohibits the use of pressure on criminal suspects). Following advice from a special commission ("Recherche Advies Commissie"), the Minister of Justice decided, in November 1996, to prohibit the use of this technique.

[Trust but Verify]

Very interesting. This has the potential to be another Schiavo-type case where even when the truth comes out, there will be people who refuse to beleive it. It appears the case is poorly handled, but the FACTS are so few and far between, it cannot be said with any degree of surety. Into the vacuum left by the lack of hard facts, we have suppositions, wild-assed guesses, and inneuendo.

[kcvl]

Paul van der Sloot is NOT a suspect anymore; he doesn't want the Dutch media to call him "Paul van der S.", he wants them to use his full last name.

How about sick *astard. Will that do?!

He knows the authorities very well.

No *hit, Sherlock! One of the lead "investigators" is Juran's Godfather.