Posted on 06/25/2005 8:33:25 AM PDT by herst1240
As a mom of five boys, this issue really concerns me. In fact, it's one of the things that's pushing me towards homeschooling them.
Don't get me wrong...I've got nothing against girls (I am one, after all, heh heh), but I do believe that boys do learn differently than girls...that children as INDIVIDUALS learn differently. If I want my boys to succeed, it seems that taking their education into my own hands seems like a very good option.
Maybe you can find a school that has a trampoline in the classroom.
This is just pre-marketing (so to speak) ... when Anoreth is 18, I'll be a real threat!
yes.
university-educated feminists control the american news media. if anyone thinks otherwise, try to get a counter view published.
Looked at in purely economic terms, you're probably right. But, if you have grand-daughters, take a look at my post 31.
If the parents can afford a good state school (as I can), college is an excellent idea for girls.
I teach university-level history, and over half my students are male. FYI
BWHAHAHA! The "Wear 'em out first" approach to educating boys!
Works with other stuff, why not the three "R"'s?
If my oldest son won't sit still for school work, I send him out to run around the block a few times (weather permitting). The trampoline is backup. He does his best work when he's exhausted. My second son is sluggish, so I make him exercise to wake up.
It is quite straightforward:
1) Blacks are inherently more deserving than whites.
2) Females are inherently more deserving than males.
3) Gays are inherently more deserving than straights.
4) Racism, sexism, and homophobia are the primary ills of society.
Therefore, the feminization of college campuses is officially a good thing, and those nasty little male proto-oppressor college student-wannabes will just have to learn their place.
I forgot that you homeschool your children. At least, I think I remember that, now. If I am STILL wrong, please let me know, lol. (Though I remember how cute they all are. :))
Yes, I homeschool (with mixed success - everyone's doing remedial math this summer, between camps :-).
My oldest sometimes gets up in the middle of the night to jump on the trampoline. He'd have to be shackled to sit still at a desk all day. If you can find a school that lets boys get the exercise they need, they'd probably do fine. Maybe an all-boys school, if such a thing exists. Otherwise, there's a lot to be said for the ability to say, "Bill, you're driving me nuts! Go out and run until you're tired enough to concentrate!"
Last semester, I was in a class of 15 people. I was the only guy in there.
Other classes average around 70% women.
My 8-year-old wants to go to military school. I told him we'd consider it when he's 13, if we come into a lot of money :-).
"Now, they are going to make more money in the short-term than she who has a college degree. However, she will make more in the long run with the M.S. degree. "
I feel you are actually making my point here ...
the solution to getting a high-wage job often is not LESS education, but more. And the claims that the trades can give you a high wage miss the point that the wage tops our earlier than in other careers. In the long run, you need to be a business owner and/or manager and/or high-level knowledge worker to make more than average wage.
If you know at 18 exactly how you will succeed without college, fine, go for it. But that is not the case for most 18-year-old. Most people skipping College are condemning themselves to low-wage jobs, and the statistics prove it.
Those arguing against college are arguing against law of averages w.r.t. the benefits of education.
"a college education "ain't what it used to be"."
Yes, but the same is true of course of a High School education.
If it is true that ..." What our colleges/universities used to teach within the confines of a bachelor's degree has been watered down so much," ... then it is also true High School alone won't cut it.
This ... "We have kids in our technology high school coming out of our graphic design program knowing the software necessary to get a job making $20-25/hour at the minimum."
... may be true, but is likely the exception rather than the rule, and *really* shows that *specific* skills and knowledge in education beats the generalized nonsense that passes for education these days. Some of that specific skills learning can happen outside traditional education, but a LOT of it (programming, engineering, math, sciences, doctor, lawyer, accountant, teacher, etc.) requires college.
While a watered-down BA in Liberal indoctrination and ethnic-multicultural claptrap is hardly marketable skills, the college student has the responsibility to make the most of the time spent in the classroom. Getting a nursing, engineering, business, etc., degree will give dividends.
"business and industry have demanded more learning/training"
That is the bottom line. I have a PhD and I still need to be learning new things every day to avoid becoming obsolete.
If you are in a job that doesnt demand that of you, you can expect low-wage competition from any of: other unedereducated folks (immigrants), outsourcing, and/or automation.
"The disappearing male, let's be a bit more specific, how about the disappearing white male. I was recently told by several law professors, that for me to be competitive for acceptance to any law program, I would need to be in the top 25% for LSAT and GPA, because I am straight, white, and male.
My generation of white males has been getting the shaft now because of crimes we never were able to commit. This injustice continues to be expanded by liberals, and racists around the United States. What these groups fail to realize is, that my generation of white males will not sit idly by and watch this continue, there will be a backlash."
Hear, hear to that.
Reverse discrimination is still discrimination. And the way men are treated in academia reminds me of the country song: "She got the goldmine, I got the shaft!"
LOL! Maybe you've got a future officer on your hands, eh? :)
The thing about military schools that really bugs me is that most of them (from what I have seen, anyway) are boarding schools. I'm not so wild about THAT idea. Especially since I know what kind of mischief my boys get up to when they are under my nose...I can only imagine what he'd be doing away from home!
*shudder*
I wonder if there are any stats on the effects of a boarding/military school on a boy's education? I know that many military schools end up with about 90+% of their graduates going on to college. I'll have to see if there is a breakdown on that by gender, as well. I would presume that since most folks that can afford to send their kids to a boarding school could also afford college, that's really not an issue there, either.
Ah, to be rich, lol. :) (Money wise, that is.)
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