Franco is Still Dead, So Are the Democrats

30 June 2005

[Eva]

Good luck with your work in DC. I wish we could just pull the plug on Democrats and end their death's throe thrashing.

[pawdoggie]

FYI: I don't buy anything the "friggin' Media" says, but I don't suffer short term memory loss either. I can even remember as recently as 1992 when a war time President named George Bush saw his staggerly high Gulf War approval ratings slide into the toilet within the space of one short year. The "folks", as O'Reilly delights in calling the apolitical majority in our country, are (as we learned all too well in 1992) quite capable of swallowing a lot of liberal BS and voting against their better instincts/consciences if the "economy, stupid" is perceived as being in bad shape (e.g. gas prices are too darn high).

One thing that I have noticed, a lot of the more serious/devious Democrat political strategists have gone Deep Underground, and are playing their cards very close to their collective vest. They used to delight in telling us what they were going to do, then doing it, and end up telling us how they did it (to us). Their low profile means that something's brewing, and we'd better not let them blind side us. Which is all that I was trying to say: KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY!

[Husker8877]

I don't disagree with your points. The lesson I took from GHWB's loss was that "conventional" politicking will not defeat NUCLEAR politicking waged by the most evil politicians that this country has ever had to face. And the Clintons continued power and influence within the democrat party has changed it from a party of wrong-thinking (but not wicked) people to a party which both requires and rejoices in evil.

It is sickening, it really is.

[Kenton]

There's nothing quite as amusing as sitting in a bar drinking with a union member. Sooner or later, they always go into a "I hate Bush/Republicans" rant.

That's when I calmly start asking them how they feel about specific issues, like gun control, affirmative action/"diversity", and how that affects them on the job, and issues that demonstrate to them that they are, in fact, patriotic in their own way (lotsa vets in this group, after all), not like the Soros/MoveOn neo-communists.

Then I ask them how they can continue to be loyal to a party that, deep in its' core, takes the position that white males with a predominant Christian background, like them, are the source of all that is wrong in America, and the only reason they are welcome in the party is because their union bosses support the Democrats.

Puts a lot of questions in their minds. Sometimes, it even brings them around to questioning. "Yeah, why do I support a bunch of people who don't respect me and think I'm a redneck scumbag, anyway?"

[ConservativeDude]

"Both are subject to the same failures which put the Whigs, the Federalists, and the Republican-Democrats, among others, on the ash heap of history."

I don't think I agree that a party today is subject to same failure. The system itself is too big and because of its vastness guarantees that no party will die, nor will a 3rd party disappear. More likely, the two names will continue on, moving left and right and back again, back and forth over time.

As long as there is a USA, there will be two parties and two only, th eD's and the R's

[Sonny M]

The minute Hillary gets rid of Dean and has her people take over the party and get Moveons money,

She wants dean gone now, remember the previous guy to hold the job was her money man.

That said, we are about to find out how much power she really has, and what her max is.

She is fighting tooth and nail to keep the AFL-CIO from splitting and doing everything she can, with every bit of her power to prevent the split.

If she is successfull, then I'll take her seriously.

[goldstategop]

I agree. The Democrats will remain dominant in their Blue State strongholds in California, Illinois, New York and New Jersey for the forseeable future. But as a national political force, they're all but extinct. A party of the coasts and the Great Lakes is not exactly a party that speaks to and on behalf of the entire country. To put it differently, a regional party is not the same as a national party. Indeed Zell Miller put it well it in the title of his next to last book, "A National Party No More." The Democrats don't see how much they've shrunk and the road back is a long one. A new party has better odds of making it on the national scene than the late unloved Democrats do.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[zeebee]

All it would take is one candidate to breathe fresh air into the party and it will be back on all cylinders.

[longtermmemmory]

paid volunteers?

[longtermmemmory]

The MSM will not let the Democrats die.

Even if all that is left is a single "cell", the MSM will portray the last democrat as a majority.

(then democrats will demand proportional representation)

[longtermmemmory]

If republicans split in the absense of another left wing party that is not necessarily a bad thing. If it is republicans A want a Clarrance Thomas nominee for judge vs republicans B want a Scalia nominee for judge.

I would rather there be two parties of conscience vs the democrats party of interest group consession.