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Mark Fuhrman: The facts of Terri Schiavo’s life (I read his new book today - five stars
MSNBC ^ | June 28 05 | Fuhrman

Posted on 06/28/2005 7:29:53 PM PDT by churchillbuff

This excerpt, from MSNBC, doesn't get anywhere near the meat of the book - where Fuhrman shows how Michael's inconstent statements, and the timeline of the morning that Terri collapsed, raise a lot of questions - and suspicions. Read the book.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: churchilldisruptor; disruptorsdelight; emotionalhysteria; emotionallydisabled; exploitation; fuhrman; showmethemoney; swindlers; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 06/28/2005 7:29:53 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I haven't decided if I'm going to buy it yet or not.


2 posted on 06/28/2005 7:33:41 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: churchillbuff

I'm looking forward to reading Mark's latest book, just as I enjoyed reading "Murder in Greenwich" and "Murder in Brentwood".


3 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: churchillbuff

Amazon has a pretty good page on it, with a good review and other book recommendations. They list it currently at #56, which is a pretty fast start.

On the other hand, a Google Search for "Silent Witness" turned up just about everything BUT Fuhrman's book. One more instance where you have to wonder if Google is messing with searches for political reasons. Usually, Google is great, but then you get a strange result like this.


4 posted on 06/28/2005 7:40:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: churchillbuff; PhilDragoo

Thanks for the post. I heard Fuhrman on Hannity this afternoon. Everything he mentioned, I've seen on FR at one time or another. The MSM took off on a formulaic story and never let facts get in the way. Fuhrman deserves profits on this one. I'm buying the book!


5 posted on 06/28/2005 7:44:54 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: churchillbuff

My copy is on it's way from amazon.com I can't wait to get it!


6 posted on 06/28/2005 7:45:39 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: Cicero
One more instance where you have to wonder if Google is messing with searches for political reasons.

Me, too. When I put in the name of our troop support group at first our current thread was at the top of the list, with the introduction of all we have done.

Soon afterward, our thread couldn't be found, just an old one six or seven down the list...so I put a link to the new thread at the end of the old one.

7 posted on 06/28/2005 7:46:53 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spans)
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To: Cicero

Amazon has a combo package: "Silent Witness" and "The Truth About Hillary".


8 posted on 06/28/2005 7:48:12 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: churchillbuff

I just watched the video interview of Furhman and Terri's sister from your msn page link. Very interesting interview! I agree with what they said, it would be nice if they had a grand jury hearing!


9 posted on 06/28/2005 7:52:13 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: GVgirl

I want this book.


10 posted on 06/28/2005 7:56:13 PM PDT by Freepertwo
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To: churchillbuff

Oh, yeah, a guy that blew the OJ case by his sloppy investigation techniques is telling people how someone else screwed up. This guy is just doing this for money. I wouldn't believe anything he wrote. It might be entertaining but I wouldn't believe any of it or put any credence in his speculations.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 7:58:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Furhman could have had VIDEO of OJ beheading those two people and the jury STILL would have acquitted. That trial, in case you didn't realize, was never about the evidence.


12 posted on 06/28/2005 8:06:24 PM PDT by John Robertson
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To: churchillbuff

Why is Mark Fuhrman someone we should take seriously?


13 posted on 06/28/2005 8:10:02 PM PDT by FauxBlonde
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To: FauxBlonde

Why is Mark Fuhrman someone we should take seriously?



Very smart analyst. Very methodical detective. Very savvy student of human nature. Very astute judge of human character.


14 posted on 06/28/2005 8:14:15 PM PDT by John Robertson
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To: John Robertson

You forgot "racist jackass" and "has no more knowledge of Terri and Michael Schiavo than any of the rest of us."


15 posted on 06/28/2005 8:16:54 PM PDT by FauxBlonde
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To: FauxBlonde
"has no more knowledge of Terri and Michael Schiavo than any of the rest of us."

I had to laugh when I read this as you're doing exactly what you accuse Fuhrman of doing.

At any rate, he had access to people and documents they we haven't had.

16 posted on 06/28/2005 8:22:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: John Robertson

agreed


17 posted on 06/28/2005 8:23:49 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: FauxBlonde

Mark Fuhrman's book on the Martha Moxley case reopened a dead case and put a Kennedy cousin in jail for something he did as a child ....what have you done?


18 posted on 06/28/2005 8:29:15 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: calex59

see #18


20 posted on 06/28/2005 8:30:23 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: churchillbuff

Ping


21 posted on 06/28/2005 8:31:12 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: John Robertson

more agreement


22 posted on 06/28/2005 8:31:34 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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To: calex59
Oh, yeah, a guy that blew the OJ case by his sloppy investigation techniques is telling people how someone else screwed up. This guy is just doing this for money. I wouldn't believe anything he wrote. It might be entertaining but I wouldn't believe any of it or put any credence in his speculations.

Please describe how Fuhrman's "sloppy investigation techniques blew the OJ case".

Some people might not agree that Fuhrman is a bad investigator. One such person is Michael Skakel.

23 posted on 06/28/2005 8:31:38 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: woofie

Thanks, bud.


24 posted on 06/28/2005 8:31:53 PM PDT by John Robertson
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To: John Robertson

Amen Brotha!


25 posted on 06/28/2005 8:32:21 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: calex59

right on! I wouldn't trust that creep to take out the trash much less critique the supposedly undelying facts of the Schaivo case.


26 posted on 06/28/2005 8:35:19 PM PDT by middie
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To: woofie

"A woman's life is at stake, and it is absolutely imperative that we take action today." —Senator Kent Conrad (R–North Dakota)"

Ummm, MSNBC screwed the pooch on this quote. Conrad is a RAT senator from North Dakota. Don't believe any Rat senator came to Terri's aid.


27 posted on 06/28/2005 8:35:27 PM PDT by Neville72
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To: dc-zoo

I love you, man!

(but not in the homo way)


28 posted on 06/28/2005 8:35:32 PM PDT by John Robertson
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To: isthisnickcool

What blew the OJ case was a juror that said "everybody has DNA!"So what if OJ's was at the scene of the crime?


29 posted on 06/28/2005 8:36:15 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: churchillbuff

If I live to be 80 that means I've got a few decades of reading left.

I don't read especially slow, but I don't have a lot of time for reading books over articles. I might consume 1-2 books every other week. That means about 52 books a year.

I've probably got less than 1500 books left.

Better carefully pick the titles.

So far, my favorite is the Gospel of Luke. (Honestly.)


30 posted on 06/28/2005 8:38:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: John Robertson

LOL.. that was a fun commercial.


31 posted on 06/28/2005 8:49:58 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: middie

I wouldn't trust that creep to take out the trash much less critique the supposedly undelying facts of the Schaivo case.




TRUST ME.....he wouldn't be touching your trash. UNLESS, you are throwing away any evidence. :)


32 posted on 06/28/2005 8:50:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Ciexyz
I'm looking forward to reading Mark's latest book, just as I enjoyed reading "Murder in Greenwich" and "Murder in Brentwood".

Me too, Ciexyz. BOTH were excellent books by a very insightful detective and good man.

33 posted on 06/28/2005 8:52:54 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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"TRUST ME.....he wouldn't be touching your trash. UNLESS, you are throwing away any evidence. :) "

LOL!

34 posted on 06/28/2005 8:54:35 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: xzins

So far, my favorite is the Gospel of Luke. (Honestly.)





I think Luke would even like Mark's book - it's all about getting to the truth. And in the end, hopefully, exposing evil. Get the book for Luke. :)


35 posted on 06/28/2005 8:55:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: calex59
Whatever you may think of him, Fuhrman obviously went to Florida with an agenda. No one would want to read a book in which the "great detective" said that there was no crime. Thus, he had to find at least 'suspicion.'
36 posted on 06/28/2005 8:57:27 PM PDT by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: presently no screen name
Yes. The truth will out. It always does.
37 posted on 06/28/2005 8:58:03 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: Miss Behave

Hi Miss Behave,

Yes, one way or another. If not this year, next or in 30 yrs.


38 posted on 06/28/2005 9:04:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GVgirl

Anything Fuhrman does is bound to be a good read.


39 posted on 06/28/2005 9:05:14 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: FauxBlonde

You can't really be that insipid.


40 posted on 06/28/2005 9:11:43 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: presently no screen name

Hi, pnsn. Yep. It's always only a matter of time....


41 posted on 06/28/2005 9:13:42 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: middie
He wasn't a racist. The word they used against him was the "n" word, He was recording for a book he was going to write with a professor.
The Chief of Police, a black man, reviewed every complaint that was alleged on the T.V. and he could find no truth in it. Did you not see the interviews the Chief had on T.V>
Also there were several people he had either arrested or aided in some way that were on T.V. and each had "nice" things to say about Furman.
I wish so many on FR would review what really went on instead of coming up with "name calling " and crude expressions.
Furman didn't loose the case the jury did. Simpson should have been tried by a jury of his peers, white elite people, he hadn't lived in the Black neighborhoods for years and years and years.
42 posted on 06/28/2005 9:16:34 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: Cicero
On the other hand, a Google Search for "Silent Witness" turned up just about everything BUT Fuhrman's book. One more instance where you have to wonder if Google is messing with searches for political reasons.

I seldom use google. Not sure who is behind dogpile.com but that is my favorite search engine. The big search engines come up on dog pile and I find a ton more leads there.
43 posted on 06/28/2005 9:21:47 PM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: CindyDawg

I am buying this book.


44 posted on 06/28/2005 9:26:59 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: calex59
a guy that blew the OJ case by his sloppy investigation techniques is telling people how someone else screwed up.

and...[someone else asked]...

Why is Fuhrman someone we should take seriously?

First, his only error in the OJ case was denying he'd ever used the n-word when some liberal reporter had him on tape. A dumb error.

Second, his book on the Greenwich murder forced a PD and DA, that had been complicit in a cover-up of long standing, to confront a heinous crime committed by a former resident from a distinguished family. Fuhrman's review of the evidence ultimately resulted in the perp, who had boasted that his family connexions and wealth gave him immunity, going up the river.

Using racist language isn't right, and certainly Fuhrman's lie about that contributed to the injustice that set OJ free. But consider the Blake and Jackson cases and what they say about law in California. And balance that against getting a wealthy murderer convicted.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

45 posted on 06/28/2005 9:28:17 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (If timidity made you safe, Bambi would be king of the jungle.)
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To: FauxBlonde
Why is Mark Fuhrman someone we should take seriously?

Because his research and writing of another book resulted in a Kennedy going to jail? And thus gives him chops to write about another controversy?

46 posted on 06/28/2005 9:28:40 PM PDT by ikka
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To: churchillbuff

I'm about halfway through the book. Fuhrman does a good job of explaining the medical details. When the paramedics found Terri on the floor of her apartment she had been without oxygen for approximately 7 minutes and had no pulse. How did she get that way? Fuhrman doesn't offer easy answers but he suggests some possible scenarios in very objective fashion.

In addition, the pictures of Terri from when she was a little kid, through her awkward high school years, and her transformation into a beauty in her twenties and then after her collapse are very compelling.


47 posted on 06/28/2005 9:34:19 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: ikka
Why is Mark Fuhrman someone we should take seriously? Because his research and writing of another book resulted in a Kennedy going to jail? And thus gives him chops to write about another controversy?"""

Yup.

48 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:15 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

He should write a book on Ted Kennedy.


49 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:46 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: FauxBlonde
I beg to differ.
Having met Terri Schiavo's sister, brother, father, their lawyers, a few long term family friends, and many people who worked their behinds off to try and stop her murder, I have to tell you it was not a hard to do, "to have more knowledge than any of the rest us".
God forbid you ever have to beg the government to investigate the murder of a loved one, and be denied.
God forbid you ever have to watch a murderer go free,partly on the basis of a few casual, unrelated non PC remarks you once said out loud.
God forbid you ever endure the government deciding your loved one is a useless eater, and must be forcibly starved and dehydrated to death.
For your sake, I hope you believe in God, and pray that he will forbid such things happen to you.
I would never ask God that these or any other nightmares become part of your life, but I will enjoy a bit of scheudenfreude if I ever chance to hear of it happening to you.
50 posted on 06/28/2005 9:44:04 PM PDT by sarasmom (Why nuke them when we can MOAB them?)
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