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To: quidnunc

Crusade - Jihad. Jihad - Crusade. What came first Jihad or Crusade? I guess when you attack people they will usually attack you back.


5 posted on 07/01/2005 2:40:30 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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From the article:

"For Jews in the European Diaspora, the First Crusade was a catastrophe unprecedented since the destruction of the Temple. Three flourishing communities of the Rhineland — Worms, Mainz, and Cologne — were massacred by burghers and crusaders led by a German, Count Emicho of Leinigen, after the charismatic preacher Peter the Hermit had aroused popular hysteria. The frightful memory of these pogroms is preserved in three nearly contemporaneous Hebrew prose narratives, as well as in prayers and dirges that are recited to this day. Nor were these the only crusader persecutions of Jews. When Jerusalem fell in 1099, the Jews of the city were slaughtered along with the Muslims, and there were further assaults during the Second Crusade of 1147."

21 posted on 07/01/2005 3:04:16 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Americanexpat

I guess Western Europe should have done the politically correct thing back then and allow Islam to conquer the remaining third of Christendom. That way Christianity would now be extinct, or at best a minority cult, and we wouldn't have all these cultural clashes to worry about today.


26 posted on 07/01/2005 3:26:37 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Americanexpat
Crusade - Jihad. Jihad - Crusade. What came first Jihad or Crusade? I guess when you attack people they will usually attack you back.


this jihad will make this the FINAL crusade....

34 posted on 07/01/2005 3:58:01 PM PDT by Nat Turner (TRY THIS)
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If there is one thing that everybody knows about the Crusades, it is that they were a Bad Thing. In the eyes even of most Christians, let alone others, the Crusades were a crime against humanity, one for which apologies are due, especially to Muslims. When the Muslims appologize for the crimes they are commiting against humanity today then maybe we should consider appoligizing for the wrongs Christians comitted yesterday. The Jihads brought the Crusades in the past, similar to today.
51 posted on 07/01/2005 7:10:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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