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The Rove Factor?
Newsweek ^ | 06/11/05 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 07/02/2005 1:05:55 PM PDT by Pikamax

The Rove Factor? Time magazine talked to Bush's guru for Plame story.

By Michael Isikoff Newsweek July 11 issue - Its legal appeals exhausted, Time magazine agreed last week to turn over reporter Matthew Cooper's e-mails and computer notes to a special prosecutor investigating the leak of an undercover CIA agent's identity. The case has been the subject of press controversy for two years. Saying "we are not above the law," Time Inc. Editor in Chief Norman Pearlstine decided to comply with a grand-jury subpoena to turn over documents related to the leak. But Cooper (and a New York Times reporter, Judith Miller) is still refusing to testify and faces jail this week.

At issue is the story of a CIA-sponsored trip taken by former ambassador (and White House critic) Joseph Wilson to investigate reports that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium from the African country of Niger. "Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews... that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction," said Cooper's July 2003 Time online article.

Now the story may be about to take another turn. The e-mails surrendered by Time Inc., which are largely between Cooper and his editors, show that one of Cooper's sources was White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to two lawyers who asked not to be identified because they are representing witnesses sympathetic to the White House. Cooper and a Time spokeswoman declined to comment. But in an interview with NEWSWEEK, Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove had been interviewed by Cooper for the article. It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; isikoff; karlrove; newsweek
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1 posted on 07/02/2005 1:05:55 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove.
2 posted on 07/02/2005 1:07:41 PM PDT by woofie (An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at)
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To: Pikamax

hmmmmm -- well it looks like Rove is involved somehow. There will be many twists to this story.


3 posted on 07/02/2005 1:08:58 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: Pikamax

What garbage. It has already been well established on other threads that Rove did nothing wrong. Charaacter assasination, pure and simple. I hope the White House doesn't knuckle under and fights this tooth and nail. And what about those two lawyers leaking information about their clients? They should be investigated and disbarred.


5 posted on 07/02/2005 1:09:58 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Pikamax

Well, this is the most detail so far, but there's nothing there that says "Rove was the source of the leak".

Not that it can be called a leak, really, but you know.


6 posted on 07/02/2005 1:11:39 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: Pikamax
Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove had been interviewed by Cooper for the article. It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove.

Jeez, the liberal media will clutch at ANYTHING that they can try to pin on Karl Rove.

You can bet every dollar you have that if Karl Rove was the source, Cooper, Miller, and every liberal media entity would be screaming it from the rooftops.

The REAL leaker is a Dem, you can guarantee it. Patrick Leaky?

7 posted on 07/02/2005 1:11:40 PM PDT by Henchster
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To: Pikamax

My understanding is that Plame was once a covert agent but since her marriage became an above the board agent with a staff job. It's not criminal to speak of a "known" CIA employee.


8 posted on 07/02/2005 1:12:38 PM PDT by byteback
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To: balch3
"Luskin told NEWSWEEK that Rove "never knowingly disclosed classified information" and that "he did not tell any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA." Luskin declined, however, to discuss any other details. He did say that Rove himself had testified before the grand jury "two or three times" and signed a waiver authorizing reporters to testify about their conversations with him. "He has answered every question that has been put to him about his conversations with Cooper and anybody else," Luskin said."

This appears to absolve Rove of any wrong doing.

9 posted on 07/02/2005 1:12:40 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: rface

I would be checking their notes for being word-processed instead of typewritten, for I would not consider them to be above forgery.


10 posted on 07/02/2005 1:12:56 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: HarryCaul

so much for Lawrence O'Donnell "ITS ROVE!!!" scoop.


11 posted on 07/02/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Rove has waived any confidentiality and said that reporters can reveal anything that was said between himself and them. It's not exactly an 'aha' moment when the reporters turn over their notes, at least as regards Rove, since he's said they could for a while now.


12 posted on 07/02/2005 1:13:44 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: All
It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove.

Newsweek launches the S.S. Revenge.

My take is that if they actually had anything on Rove, this would have come out months ago, journo "integrity" aside...
13 posted on 07/02/2005 1:14:05 PM PDT by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: Pikamax

This is the so-called "IT'S ROVE" scoop by Newsweek O'Donnell was talking about?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This article practically absolves him.

Someone should post this at the DUmp.


14 posted on 07/02/2005 1:15:50 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: timpad

Well, we do have to consider the source.

Next he'll be saying Rove flushed the notes down a toilet.


15 posted on 07/02/2005 1:16:48 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: GSlob

Michael Isikoff...the same fellow that wrote the "abuse of Koran" stories for Newsweak, resulting in, what was it, 18 deaths? And then had to retract the story....


16 posted on 07/02/2005 1:16:57 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Pikamax
In my opinion, it was Mr.Plame who leaked his wife's identity. He was way too eager to repeat the news for the camera, and actually flaunted it. He even had special thanks to his wife, "an agent of the CIA", already printed in the book he was getting ready to release.

There are two very liberal writers willing to go to jail to protect someone - and I doubt they're doing it to protect Karl Rove!

17 posted on 07/02/2005 1:17:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Pikamax

Relax. Rove always admitted to providing information to reporters AFTER the Novak story. There is nothing knew here, except "reporters" like Iskoff (who is guilty of publishing false stories before to attempt to make a name for himself) trying to make something out of nothing. I like the way Iskoff quotes unnamed lawyers who are sympathtic to the White House, however, they have no probably spreading rumors. This will be another Rove conspiracy story that backfires on the libs.


18 posted on 07/02/2005 1:18:15 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: GSlob
Notes, e-mails whatever. I agree with you.

I wonder when will the reporter answer these questions "under sworn oath" before the GJ. COC is bad, perjury (unless you are a sitting president) is very, very bad!
19 posted on 07/02/2005 1:18:40 PM PDT by lowbuck
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To: Eagles Talon IV
This appears to absolve Rove of any wrong doing.

Yes, it does. The media will, however, attempt to make something of it, just like they've done with everything else.

Beep beep!

20 posted on 07/02/2005 1:19:30 PM PDT by alnick ("I will continue to be guided by the advice that matters." GWB 6/28/05)
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To: Pikamax
The leak to Novak, apparently intended to discredit Wilson's mission, caused a furor when it turned out that Plame was an undercover agent. It is a crime to knowingly reveal the identity of an undercover CIA official.Was an undercover agent, or had been. I think it's pretty clear, under the terms of the applicable law, that no crime was ever committed. This account says Rove talked to Cooper after the appearance of Novak's story when everybody knew who and what Plame was (and many may have know it before). Then Isikoff goes on to say that Rove had talked to Cooper before the Novak article appeared. What he does NOT say is if it was in the earlier interview that Rove made a remark about Plame and it does not appear that it was. And if it was, then why did Novak break the story and not Cooper?
21 posted on 07/02/2005 1:19:34 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: NathanBookman
" I like the way Iskoff quotes unnamed lawyers who are sympathtic to the White House..."

Didn't Newsweek commit to no longer using unnamed sources?

22 posted on 07/02/2005 1:20:23 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: timpad
Newsweek launches the S.S. Revenge.

I thought the same thing when I saw it was a Newsweek link. They'll try like hell to pin it on Rove, but it'll end up a lefty for sure. I have no doubt. The left is being wayyyy too quick to jump.

23 posted on 07/02/2005 1:21:01 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Bahbah

Sorry. I thought my ital tag was off.


24 posted on 07/02/2005 1:21:49 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Bahbah

Very bad mistake...you are hereby sentenced to 24 hours at DU...let that be a lesson to you...


25 posted on 07/02/2005 1:22:43 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: HarryCaul

I thought I once read that Rove had been cleared of any wrong doing in this case. Anyone remember this? Or am I thinking of some other thing they were trying to pin on Rove?


26 posted on 07/02/2005 1:23:48 PM PDT by Cougar66
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To: West Coast Conservative

The DUmpers can't read nor understand it if you read it to them.


27 posted on 07/02/2005 1:24:27 PM PDT by UB355
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To: rface
Not just Rove, it's Rumsfeld and the entire Bush Cabal!
They are out to Lie for BIG OIL and Destroy the Country!
Halliburton and the Saudis are paying for everything, G.W. is in a Secret Partnership with Osama to take over the World!


Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaugh, DU and MSM are very Predictable and the game plan isn't much different than Fahrenheit 911.
Twist spin lie look for a sound bite or ask Blather for a Memo...

TT
28 posted on 07/02/2005 1:24:45 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: NathanBookman
This will be another Rove conspiracy story that backfires on the libs.

I sense the same thing. They should pick their fights more carefully. Remember the boy who cried wolf so many times no one believed him when he finally had something to really scream about?

29 posted on 07/02/2005 1:25:29 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Pikamax

"The Rove Factor?"

Shouldn't it be "The O'Rove Factor"?
Complete with "Talking Points" amd "Most Ridiculous Item of the Day" segments?

Name and town, name and town, name and town...!


30 posted on 07/02/2005 1:25:54 PM PDT by Checkers (Gitmo has killed fewer people than Michael Schiavo.)
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To: Pikamax
Folks I do not like the sound of this. If Rove is somehow en voled, this can only be bad news for Bush. None of this makes any sense. Hopefully it will be sorted out quickly and no one at the White House is implicated.
31 posted on 07/02/2005 1:25:55 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: HarryCaul

Ok not cleared, but not a target. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/10/16/rove_testifies_before_panel_in_cia_leak_investigation/


32 posted on 07/02/2005 1:25:59 PM PDT by Cougar66
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To: Pikamax

Didn't we already know that Rove had been interviewed?


33 posted on 07/02/2005 1:26:37 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (...stumbling across Bill Bennett on the radio is like bumping into Socrates at Starbucks.-K.Parker)
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To: sofaman
you are hereby sentenced to 24 hours at DU...

Man, that is really harsh :(

34 posted on 07/02/2005 1:26:55 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: rface

Why do you say that it looks like Rove is involved when the facts indicate that he's not involved? Why did you post that loony stuff about Rove from PEJ News? Are you a professional or amatuer spin meister from the Clinton gang?


35 posted on 07/02/2005 1:28:08 PM PDT by defenderSD (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven...."Nevergore.")
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To: Bahbah
okay...since I am abundantly fair..it's 24 hours at DU or the dreaded panties on the head a la Abu Graibh...and I warn you, the panties belonged to Janet Reno...

I just grossed myself out

36 posted on 07/02/2005 1:28:40 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: woofie
It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove...

Obviously, nothing of importance, given that:

1. Rove has signed a waiver clearing reporters to testify regarding any discussions they might have had with him.

2. Time and the New York Times wouldn't have wasted a split-second incriminating Rove, were he the source.

All in all, this was a particularly pathetic attempt at insinuating Rove was responsible. When the Time notes become public, Isikoff and Newsweek know damn good and well Rove's involvement will be nil.

37 posted on 07/02/2005 1:28:53 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pikamax

Rove is not stupid. He did not do anything wrong.

Meanwhile, I wonder how the idiots at DU are reacting. They are probably salivating over the prospect that Evil Genius Rove is going to be slammed! When it doesn't happen, they will interpret that as evidence of the Vast Right Wing conspiracy at work!


38 posted on 07/02/2005 1:29:34 PM PDT by laishly
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To: sofaman
I just grossed myself out

Geez, that makes two of us. How about if I promise not to do it again and wear a monitoring ankle bracelet?

39 posted on 07/02/2005 1:29:48 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Uncle Hal
Folks I do not like the sound of this.

Fear not. They're just picking at straws. Call it wishful thinking on their part. Rove is NOT stupid, and 2 liberal reporters would NOT go to jail to cover for Karl Rove!!!

40 posted on 07/02/2005 1:30:19 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Bahbah

Fair enough...your out of dutch


41 posted on 07/02/2005 1:30:54 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: sofaman

"..it's 24 hours at DU or the dreaded panties on the head a la Abu Graibh...and I warn you, the panties belonged to Janet Reno..."

Boxers or briefs?


42 posted on 07/02/2005 1:31:12 PM PDT by Checkers (Gitmo has killed fewer people than Michael Schiavo.)
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To: sofaman
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4004445

we're being quoted on DU...apparently we're in denial...

43 posted on 07/02/2005 1:33:06 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Bahbah

From the Boston globe article:


Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, said prosecutors have assured Rove he is not a target of the criminal investigation.


44 posted on 07/02/2005 1:33:08 PM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: Pikamax
Since the Watergate slime-balls took down a sitting president the media swine, and government socialist, with an agenda are seeking the money, and notoriety, that could come with a encore.

Sick to imagine the destructive bent of the fifth column.
45 posted on 07/02/2005 1:33:10 PM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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To: Checkers

The big question is....do we really want to know? Either way, it's a stomach turner...


46 posted on 07/02/2005 1:34:33 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Pikamax

O'Donnell off his meds again.


47 posted on 07/02/2005 1:38:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: sofaman
we're being quoted on DU...apparently we're in denial...

They're now in a panic because the story is already dying.

*sigh*

There's nothing to it but one liberal reporters opinion, like the Downing street memos.

They just keep trying and trying. It must be a bitch to be them.

48 posted on 07/02/2005 1:38:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: laishly
Meanwhile, I wonder how the idiots at DU are reacting.

Would you be surprised if I told you that they think they've found The Next Big Thing? You know, TXANG memos, Black Box Voting, Al Qa Qaa...

Another Perfect Rovian Storm...PJ Comix is going to have a ball with this one!
49 posted on 07/02/2005 1:42:01 PM PDT by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: concerned about politics
it's remarkable to follow their discussion groups...they really are clutching at straws..

I think what is remarkable to me is the pure unbridled hate that you see on their threads...really vicious stuff...

Only goes to prove that they are beginning to get the sense that they are destined for the political wilderness for a while...So they desperately hope for some sort of "crime" that will bring down the Bush admin...they're becoming laughable...

50 posted on 07/02/2005 1:42:39 PM PDT by sofaman
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