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Toyota to build 100,000 vehicles per year in Ontario (Americans too illiterate to train)
CBC ^ | July 3, 2005 | STEVE ERWIN

Posted on 07/03/2005 3:25:54 PM PDT by ItsJeff

WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) - Ontario workers are well-trained.

That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant.

Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train - helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge.

"The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant.

Acknowledging it was the "worst-kept secret" throughout Ontario's automotive industry, Toyota confirmed months of speculation Thursday by announcing plans to build a 1,300-worker factory in the southwestern Ontario city.

"Welcome to Woodstock - that's something I've been waiting a long time to say," Ray Tanguay, president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, told hundreds gathered at a high school gymnasium.

The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually.

The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs.

Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.

In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

"Most people don't think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said.

Tanguay said Toyota's decision on where to build its seventh North American plant was "not only about money."

"It's about being in the right place," he said, noting the company can rely on the expertise of experienced Cambridge workers to help get Woodstock up and running.

Premier Dalton McGuinty said the money the province and Ottawa are pledging for the project is well-spent. His government has committed $400 million, including the latest Toyota package, to the province's auto sector, which helped finance $5-billion worth of industry projects.

"I think that's a great investment that will more than pay for itself in terms of new jobs and new economic returns," McGuinty said.

The provincial funds for the auto sector were drawn from a fund set up to attract investments specifically in that industry. McGuinty said no similar industry funds are being planned for other sectors, but added the province wants to attract biotechnology companies - those working on multibillion-dollar advanced medical research.

"What we have done for auto we would like to be able to do for biotech," he said. "That's where we're lending some real focus to at the present time."

Similarly, Emmerson said Ottawa is looking to help out industries that create "clusters" of jobs around them - such as in aerospace, shipbuilding, telecommunications and forestry - where supply bases build around a large manufacturer.

© The Canadian Press, 2005


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: automakers; manufacturing; toyota; workforce
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To: Conservatrix

You get one guess.


61 posted on 07/03/2005 4:24:58 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: paulat

"I think Toyota has a point. If I see another "its"/"it's" misuse, I will scream."

Then you need to relax. I have nearly a decade of post-graduate work under my belt and I just made the its/it's mistake earlier today. I know the difference. It's a mistake. People make them.

And, no, that does not make the mistaken person illiterate.


62 posted on 07/03/2005 4:25:03 PM PDT by Sandreckoner
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To: GOPologist
I hope that the "too illiterate" Americans have enough sense NOT to buy a Toyota vehicle.

More than likely they'll continue to buy them because the maker is so concerned with quality that they go where they can get the best workers. Quality product is their bottom line.

63 posted on 07/03/2005 4:26:04 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Sandreckoner
I'm talking about the nultitude of "mistakes."

And they're not "mistakes" because they are everywhere and constant.

Have you tried to hire someone lately to fill in data on a database? I have. The level of literacy is appalling.

64 posted on 07/03/2005 4:27:41 PM PDT by paulat
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To: ItsJeff

this is such BS - we have displaced workers from industries that have been offshored to china and india - with college educations.


65 posted on 07/03/2005 4:28:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: paulat
This website is a tesitmony to Americans' lack of education.

FWIW, I wonder how many Fortune 500 CEOs could pass a spelling test?

66 posted on 07/03/2005 4:29:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: oceanview
Yup, and many of them cannot fill out an employment application in intelligible English.

But they have college degrees!
67 posted on 07/03/2005 4:30:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
By the way, that's not all rural schoolchildren, that's just AL, GA, MS, and LA.

I see. Last time I drove through AL and GA, they all spoke English, last time I drove south of San Antonio I thought I was in Nuevo Laredo. And the drop out rate for Hispanics is around 46%.

68 posted on 07/03/2005 4:30:29 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: mewzilla
FWIW, I wonder how many Fortune 500 CEOs could pass a spelling test?

It's not their job. Their job is to run a company where people are hired to be accurate.

69 posted on 07/03/2005 4:30:40 PM PDT by paulat
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To: ScreamingFist

Yet the last time I went to BFE, LA I couldn't find anyone who could read a map. People who could read a road sign without difficulty in the back bayou country were few and far between, too.


70 posted on 07/03/2005 4:33:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: paulat
It's not their job.

You could argue the same for FReepers :) I do this for love, not money :)

71 posted on 07/03/2005 4:34:38 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: jocko12

We can't find applicants capable of learning machine operation. A local employment service had to drop a question from their screening test because too many applicants were missing the question: "20 is what percent of 100?"
The National Education Association and American Federation of Teachers, along with many parents, can take their share of the blame.

The situation is critical only if America plans to compete with China....


72 posted on 07/03/2005 4:37:31 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: ScreamingFist

Your average inhabitant of NYC, San Fran, and Seattle is decidely more educated than the average Joe Schmoe is Po-dunk Alabama.


73 posted on 07/03/2005 4:37:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (Frylock is my Homeboy)
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To: mewzilla

Doesn't answer your point. A CEO doesn't have to be a spelling genius...he has to hire people who spell adequately and have adequate grammar skills.

You thought you made a point by delfecting the topic.


74 posted on 07/03/2005 4:37:52 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat
Who is illiterate? All the posters here who say "to fat," instead of "too fat." Who say, "loose weight," instead of "lose weight." All the posters here who have made it a joke to say "hugh," instead of "huge." Or, "stuned," instead of "stunned." I think Toyota has a point. If I see another "its"/"it's" misuse, I will scream. I could go on and on. This website is a tesitmony to Americans' lack of education.

No it's a testimony that Toyota put's more weight on engineers than people that know when "its"/it's misuse" is a problem. Try spellcheck if you're going to throw down on others for "English rules violations". Sheesh....

75 posted on 07/03/2005 4:39:07 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: paulat
A CEO doesn't have to be a spelling genius...

Neither does an autoworker or FReeper.

76 posted on 07/03/2005 4:39:47 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

And, again, case-in-point...I said "delfecting," instead of "deflecting."


77 posted on 07/03/2005 4:40:01 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat

And I still got what you meant :)


78 posted on 07/03/2005 4:40:35 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ScreamingFist

Get a clue.

Spellcheck doesn't flag words that are misused.


79 posted on 07/03/2005 4:41:10 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat

I just wasn't rude enough to point out your error :)


80 posted on 07/03/2005 4:41:14 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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