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If the current day Polynesians originated in Taiwan, what happened to the original inhabitants of these South Sea islands? Probably exterminated by the invading Taiwanese. This mean, someone is going to have to pay reparations to someone. But who and to whom?
11 posted on 07/05/2005 7:04:38 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

Last I heard, there was no evidence of any human occupation of Polynesia before the Polynesians.


13 posted on 07/05/2005 7:16:43 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: quadrant; Graymatter

The following letter to Mark Steyn touches on your question...


http://www.steynonline.com/index2.cfm?edit_id=30

DANGERS OF GETTING SOFT
One of the things that caught my eye in your recent piece, "One day, Germany will have had enough" was the following line explaining how American military umbrella influenced European thinking. Absolving wealthy nations of the need to maintain credible armies softens them: they decay, almost inevitably, into a semi-non-aligned status.

History seems to support your observation. Following is an excerpt from Jared Diamond's book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" that I happen to be now reading. Here the author describes what happened when the Maori from New Zealand went to check out the Moriori who have been living on Chatham Islands for some 500 years in peaceful isolation.

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"On the Chatham Islands, 500 miles east of New Zealand, centuries of independence came to a brutal end for the Moriori people in December 1835. On November 19 of that year a ship carrying 500 Maori armed with guns, clubs and axes arrived, followed on December 5 by a shipload of 400 more Maori. Groups of Maori began to walk through Moriori settlements, announcing that the Moriori were now their slaves, and killing those who objected. An organized resistance by the Moriori could still then have defeated the Maori, who were outnumbered two to one. However, the Moriori had a tradition of resolving disputes peacefully. They decided in a council meeting not to fight back but offer peace, friendship, and division of resources.

"Before Moriori could deliver that offer, the Maori attacked en masse. Over the course of the next few days, they killed hundreds of Moriori, cooked and ate many of the bodies, and enslaved all the others, killing most of them too over the next few years as it suited their whim.

"A Maori conqueror [later] explained, 'We took possession...in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped. Some ran away from us, these we killed, and others were killed - but what of that? It was in accordance with our custom.'"

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I cannot tell what a multiculturalist might conclude from this self-explanatory story (and there are many more stories). Maybe the Maori warriors were from broken families and spent too much time watching violent TV shows. I have a better idea though of what a realist would learn from it. Cultural customs that are beyond what we understand as rational are most likely beyond our negotiation capabilities. I've been telling (soft-on-enemies and hard-on-friends) people for years my instinctive observation that they've had it too easy for too long and that they lost their ability to distinguish between friends and enemies - they, as you have pointed out, have decayed.

I only worry that if the appeasers win the upper hand in today's clash with Islamofascist terrorism we all (including many of us non-appeasers) will have to pay a much higher price later - in accordance with terrorist custom.

Jan Vrana
Montreal


41 posted on 07/05/2005 5:03:04 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: quadrant

Sharpton is on his way!! LOL!!


49 posted on 07/06/2005 4:31:08 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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