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1898 Book "War of the Worlds" Reflects Conservative View of 9-11
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Posted on 07/06/2005 4:04:26 AM PDT by GermanBusiness

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To: Lurking in Kansas

Was from 1956-1986. Now in Maine.


21 posted on 07/06/2005 11:40:16 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: KeyWest
I'm kind of a broken record on this topic, but the left (marxists, socialists, etc.) stole the quite respectable term "liberal" (original meaning "someone who believes in personal liberty" including freedom of the marketplace or capitalism) decades ago in much the same way that sodomites absconded with the word "gay" (original meaning "happy").

There's a reason the re-definition of words to mean something different or even the opposite of what common sense would dictate is such a prominent part of Orwell's 1984. He understood the left and their methods very well. H.G Wells was a liberal in the old sense, as are most people today who describe themselves as "conservatives".

22 posted on 07/06/2005 12:07:35 PM PDT by katana
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To: KeyWest
Now in Maine.

LOL! You sure went from one extreme to the other!

23 posted on 07/06/2005 12:15:08 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: ARCADIA

I suspect that society melted into disorder so rapidly simply because there was no other choice. With no electricity, no information and those machines literally popping up everywhere, running was the only choice. It would have been nice to have a little narration (a la the 1953 film) to tell us how many machines there were - it seemed like there must have been hundreds in the US alone.

Militarily I doubt that there was much of a battle plan. Judging from the single engagement we saw ("No effect! No effect!") our end of the fight seemed to be mostly hit and run. I'll give Spielberg credit for this - he showed the military doing their duty heroically.


24 posted on 07/06/2005 12:40:59 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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I suspect that society melted into disorder so rapidly simply because there was no other choice.

That is not usually how society works. People under fear and pressure tend to clump together. It is a return to family, a rediscovery of neighbors and community, and perhaps even a return to basic values. When the WTC went down there were still thousands that were in there trying to help complete strangers. Even after that first building went down and the danger became all to obvious people were still trying to help each other. People in the same fox hole grow closer. Perhaps, if it had gone on for weeks, the stress becomes exhausting and overwhelming and a few wander off; but, not after just a couple of days. Tim Robbin's character wasn't even given enough time to get a good drunk going.
25 posted on 07/06/2005 1:02:25 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

People did "clump together," they just did it on the road.

It's kind of hard to rediscover neighbors and community when a 100-ft Martian Machine is stomping both flat.

When the threat is advancing and unrelenting the only choice one usually has is to retreat, especially when the (earthly) military is powerless to stop it.

Apparently (and I wish this could have been revealed in the movie) the machines sprang up all over the world by the thousands. There was no front line to defend, and people were possibly being herded according to some plan.

Personally I wish the plot had paralleled the 1953 movie more closely, but that angle was covered in Independence Day.


26 posted on 07/06/2005 1:26:50 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: GermanBusiness

People have to remember the movie wasn't about the aliens. It was about the characters and how they came to grip and survived the situation. Cruise's character being a jerk/wimp was able to come to a realization he had to get his daughter through the ordeal made it more realistic, more identifiable than if he was joe cool who had the situation under control.


27 posted on 07/07/2005 12:27:47 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: GermanBusiness

"The planet Mars, I scarcely need remind the reader, revolves about the sun at a mean distance of 140,000,000 miles, and the light and heat it receives from the sun is barely half of that received by this world. It must be, if the nebular hypothesis has any truth, older than our world; and long before this earth ceased to be molten, life upon its surface must have begun its course. The fact that it is scarcely one seventh of the volume of the earth must have accelerated its cooling to the temperature at which life could begin. It has air and water and all that is necessary for the support of animated existence."

Wells was really ahead of his time...


28 posted on 07/07/2005 12:59:19 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: PLMerite; ARCADIA

I find it hard to believe, even in New Jersey, that out of that whole herd of humanity, only Tom and one other guy had a gun.

If Spielberg's ETs had landed in Texas, they would have found a citizen army facing them.

Down here, if you don't have the firepower of a platoon... Well, you just ain't armed, pudnocker!


29 posted on 07/07/2005 1:11:17 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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