[KeyWest]

Outstanding post. Brought back a lot of memories. I cut my teeth on Verne and Wells and was hooked on SiFi. Have not seen the latest movie but your post will get me there.

It has been said many times, but yesterdays liberal is not like todays. Most "liberals" back then were interested in reform and the Church was with them. Today, the Church is still liberal in the old sense but one who says they are liberal are more socialist and against both God and country.

It is interesting how times have changed.

BTW, welcome to FR and I look forward to more of your exceptional posts.

[Lurking in Kansas]

OT.

Are you from Key West? I visited KW last November for the first time and fell in love (with the area). I'm sure that is a common reaction for 1st time visitors.

[katana]

I'm kind of a broken record on this topic, but the left (marxists, socialists, etc.) stole the quite respectable term "liberal" (original meaning "someone who believes in personal liberty" including freedom of the marketplace or capitalism) decades ago in much the same way that sodomites absconded with the word "gay" (original meaning "happy").

There's a reason the re-definition of words to mean something different or even the opposite of what common sense would dictate is such a prominent part of Orwell's 1984. He understood the left and their methods very well. H.G Wells was a liberal in the old sense, as are most people today who describe themselves as "conservatives".