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...one-third of the financing for CNOOC's bid is coming from low-interest or zero-interest loans from Chinese state-controlled banks.

"Free traders" claim that China has gone "capitalist". Thats why the communist government is subsidizing the Unocal bid, I guess. In the WTO global trading system, capitalism is redefined....
1 posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:10 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: FlyLow; Semper Paratus; nickcarraway; Bald Eagle777; Iscool; ETERNAL WARMING; chemainus; Dat Mon; ..

Neither China nor CNOOC are in this acquisition game for Unocal just for capitalist sport. On behalf of the government of China, CNOOC is acquiring energy reserves.

Contrary to the expectations of many pundits and policymakers in the United States, China is not "going Japanese" and using its surplus dollars to buy up expensive artwork or signature properties like Rockefeller Center or Pebble Beach Golf Course. It was one thing when the Japanese bought the fancy golf course or the architecturally significant landmark office building in New York. Those assets are still here in the United States and, at the end of the day, are still available for U.S. citizens to use.

But in this Unocal case, Chinese interests are attempting to buy a U.S. industrial legacy with oil and minerals in the ground in North America and overseas. There is a qualitative difference here, with long-term implications for U.S. national strategic interests.

--Byron W. King


2 posted on 07/06/2005 11:08:04 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thanks for the ping.

Lets reduce concepts down to basic definitions..according to some conventional wisdom....

If I make money...its 'capitalism'...period.

Everybody STFU and dont ask no questions...


4 posted on 07/06/2005 11:22:00 AM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: hedgetrimmer; All

America supports Chevron, show your patriotism by supporting Chevron and resist the Communists from threatening our country.


12 posted on 07/06/2005 12:11:43 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: hedgetrimmer

1. Two perspectives here: It doesn't really matter who owns the crude. The crude still flows on to the world market. If China ships Unocal crude to China, it just means they buy less elsewhere. 70% of Unocal reserves are in Asia and never would have been sold in North America anyway. Also, its not like if we went to war with China that we wouldn't take the 30% of reserves that are in the US anyway. There are other US companies with operations offshore China, that oil is sold to China, not to North America.

2. It is true that it is the zero interest loans that are making the acquisition possible. What this means is that CNOC is not factoring in the true cost of capital into their analysis, and are therefore willing to overpay. There is nothing wrong with US companies selling assets to people who are overpaying for them. What it means is a net windfall for the US company at the expense of the Chinese government/ taxpayers.


13 posted on 07/06/2005 12:15:11 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

If UNOCAl had any significant US oil supply, it would not be the object of a take over with crude oil at record prices.


28 posted on 07/06/2005 9:47:52 PM PDT by Eva
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