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The Schiavo Autopsy Results: Terri Dailies July 6
Accuracy in Media-Media Monitor ^ | July 6, 2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said…"

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KEYWORDS: accuracy; anncoulterscotus; autopsy; dumbbears; herofloriduhvoter; hino; media; msmbias; murderer; notnews; rushforfloriduhvoter; schiavo; schiavowifeabuser; schindler; terri; terridailythread; terrischiavo; unbalancedandanidiot; unbalancedleft; wifekiller
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To: billbears

I'm having enough fun just watching you show how little you understand the Constitution. I don't usually get to see the DU talking points, since I don't hang out over there, or even visit. Your posts are enlightening, as well as entertaining.


141 posted on 07/06/2005 5:57:49 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Thankyou for explaining that disjointed logic as it had been presented by that poster.GOD BLESS TERRI!Abuse has a statute of Limitations, Murder has No Statute of Limitations!Mr. Sckakel discovered that the hard way, maybe others will be brought to Justice in the same way.


142 posted on 07/06/2005 5:58:25 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (Facts don't Bother the Left! GOD BLESS TERRI and Her Real Family)
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To: billbears

How about the court transcript, and greer's false summary of it?


143 posted on 07/06/2005 5:58:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: True Republican Patriot
You and I know that Terri had no representation who was lookingg out for her interests. Even the Attorneys who were trying to save her life were her parents' attorneys. Terri was never represented by counsel, as per Judge Greer who ran a tight ship, controlling everything so that nothing could go wrong the third time they tried to kill her.

JUDGE GREER SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. Florida is overlooking all of his bad deeds in Terri's case but he's ruined other lives as well and people have fled Florida with their lives to get away from Judge Greer's orders. He's a modern day executioner and that's why the hearse chasing bar associations keep giving him awards. They have a trust set up to rob the wards and then they quietly (usually) have them killed.

144 posted on 07/06/2005 5:58:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: True Republican Patriot

It's been fun watching this Constitutional scholar explain how right it was to kill Terri. I'm wondering if some official from the Catholic Church will show up to explain how right it was.


145 posted on 07/06/2005 6:01:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: billbears; floriduh voter; BykrBayb; True Republican Patriot

Billbears;I have been noting your posts for some time now and they are very consistent. Sounds like you have an agenda or are just having a bad day.

Surely, you do not think the separation of powers means the Judiciary trumps all, do you? Each time you come down on the side of the Judiciary as if you approve they are our ultimate rulers.

As you sneer at us who were on the scene, your motives are transparent as a windexed window.

Do you:

1. Just have a bad day?

2. Have an agenda?

3. Just want the topic of State sponsored murder to go away?

4. Other?


146 posted on 07/06/2005 6:02:58 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Deo gratias)
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To: billbears; ContraryMary
And of course you have documentation of this tampering? Of course you don't. But don't let that stop you.

The Schindlers attorney filed a flurry of papers just before March 18th when the tube was removed. One of them was that Judge Greer had mistaken Terris age at the time of her conversation with Diane. He responded that it made no difference. The Schindlers have removed the legal papers from the net but quite a few read it.

I pinged Mary because I believe that she read that particular document.

147 posted on 07/06/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: fox0566
Head of Florida's House Judiciary Committee said to me in person at the beginning of week 2 "Terri will be a martyr." How'd he already know they weren't going to save her? That's Rep. Simmons from Orlando.

We asked him to impeach Greer too. He turned that into a press release but it appears it was more grandstanding to protect his future with his base.

The fix was in. Florida is a mess. It is getting worse.

I am supporting Tom Gallagher for Governor. Charlie Crist would only be a figurehead (they are dangerous). He is part of the coverup and no can do.

148 posted on 07/06/2005 6:03:48 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: floriduh voter

Yep, You are correct, but at least the Smothers Brothers were humorous and not demented.


149 posted on 07/06/2005 6:04:43 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (Facts don't Bother the Left! GOD BLESS TERRI and Her Real Family)
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To: BykrBayb
I'm having enough fun just watching you show how little you understand the Constitution

It's sad really. All I have provided is links backing up my statements with Constitutional quotes and precedent. You haven't provided a single thing. Not one thing. Not one precedent. Not one case before SCOTUS supporting your view. And I'm the one with the problem understanding the Constitution.

Here's a clue for you. You cannot chop out misquoted bits of the Preamble or the Declaration and take them as the holy gospel. Provide an instance of original intent that the Constitution of the United States was meant to apply to the citizens of the respective states. I'll even give you a headstart. Look to Madison's intended Bill of Rights (the ones that weren't passed). Until then, really don't bother me.

150 posted on 07/06/2005 6:06:22 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

You omit parts of the Constitution that you don't like, and then accuse me of posting things I haven't posted. Get a grip!


151 posted on 07/06/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: billbears
Not to worry. There are lots of lawbreakers (remember this is the south and there are good old boys who never evolved). The last place to go would be to the local police.

Getting ducks in a row is a process being taken care of but it's not going to happen overnight. Justice will be served.

152 posted on 07/06/2005 6:09:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: BykrBayb

bb, you're doing swell. Maybe you'll have your own thread at CP one of these days.


153 posted on 07/06/2005 6:11:32 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: floriduh voter

Truly despicable people. Don't a lot of the major players in the Schiavo case have some sort of connections to Scientology and the euthanasia agenda? This is scary stuff, and if I were disabled or elderly I would high tail it out of Florida as fast as I could.


154 posted on 07/06/2005 6:13:26 PM PDT by fox0566
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To: 8mmMauser
Surely, you do not think the separation of powers means the Judiciary trumps all, do you? Each time you come down on the side of the Judiciary as if you approve they are our ultimate rulers.

You misunderstand the one major intent of the separation of powers. At the time it also meant the separation of powers between the states and the national government. They were equals. The only time I speak about the Judicial branch, the federal judicial branch, is when they have either created power for the federal government, such as the incorporation of the Bill of Rights, or when they recognize this incorporation was never intended, such as in the case of Janice Rogers Brown.

I do have an agenda. As a conservative that is still wanting limited government, I will speak against those that are willing to engage the national government in what was clearly a state issue. I will speak against those that would use the national government to forward their agenda at all costs, even up to destroying any possibility of returning to the federalist intent for what they deem to be a just cause. It's sad the woman died. But I am tired most of all from those that would use the Constitution as it was not intended. The Constitution was not intended to be a list of rights for the citizens of the respective states. It was intended only as a list of limitations upon the federal government and nothing else. Framer after Framer after Framer stated this and was concerned about this one issue (well except for the monarchist Hamilton), the possibility that the national government would eventually swallow any power the states held. It is pitiful to see 'conservatives' not only not having a problem with it, but advocating it to forward their agenda

155 posted on 07/06/2005 6:14:51 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I believe this was covered by media too about Terri's testimony at age 19, not 12 or 13 as changed by the Judge. Judges cannot change dates to suit themselves and further, he changed the date based upon Karen Ann Quinlan having been dead already but Quinlan lived at least five more years. So, the premise to change the date by Greer was based upon Greer's ignorance on the Quinlan case.


156 posted on 07/06/2005 6:15:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: billbears
"Be careful though, Scientologists have a looonnnggg arm, they'll get you....?

I would say the problem with Scientology down there is nothing to sneeze at...

Clearwater Florida, especially downtown Clearwater, is Scientology's worldwide spiritual headquarters and main training ground. Scientology brochures claim that Clearwater Florida has the "largest community of Scientologists in the world." Back in 1998, Scientology generated from 1.5 to 2 million dollars of income per week. This material success enables them to maintain ownership of tens of millions of dollars worth of property (about 40 buildings) as well as many businesses:

To date, the church owns more than $50-million in Clearwater-area properties and is nearing completion of a $50-million Mediterranean Revival-style building nicknamed "Super Power." Additionally, the church now has 565 hotel rooms in and near downtown for visiting Scientologists from all over the world who consider Clearwater their spiritual mecca.

It is interesting to note that Terri is buried there. It looks like one town will be receiving lots of revenue from people visiting her grave site.

157 posted on 07/06/2005 6:18:46 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: fox0566
Oh, my yes. Judge Greer received his second award from a Bar Assn., the Clearwater Bar Assn. at the Scientology Hotel, presented to him by the Scientologist's counsel on retainer. The Clearwater Bar meets at the Scientology retreat. George Felos' social revolution of death started here in Pinellas County. That's what he calls it in his book which is at www.amazon.com. Felos is socially engineering in Pinellas County and he is former or current President of Florida Right to Die. (Terri didn't want to die. She tried to say she wanted to live - the cop lied and said it never happened. Then they pulled the tube out after throwing Terri's blood relatives out of the room.

THIS IS NOT MY AMERICA. NOT MY STATE.

Terri's last hours are on my profile page. If you click on my screen name you can read Father Pavone's account. He was with Terri right before she died.

158 posted on 07/06/2005 6:21:56 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: floriduh voter
Getting ducks in a row is a process being taken care of but it's not going to happen overnight. Justice will be served.

Really? What do you mean 'justice will be served'? Would you care to elaborate? You know the same people that you think are following you around (as you stated in #125) could be monitoring your web activity....

159 posted on 07/06/2005 6:21:58 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: fox0566

You know, things like what happened in Florida to Terri Shiavo, can happen in any state...its just not Florida...I dont live there, but I do know, that feeding tubes are pulled in other states as well...

About Florida....my husbands uncle and his aunt have lived in Florida, for almost 35yrs...they live in Clearwater...late last year my husbands aunt, in her 80s, had to be admitted to a hospital for a particular problem, and from there went to a nursing home...the problem she had, was such that the doctors advised her and her husband, that she should have a feeding tube inserted...and it was...the feeding tube did fail to resolve the problem, and what with complications and such the aunt died...but the doctors were aggressive in treating her, were adamant that she receive a feeding tube, and they received the best care possible...the doctors did not care that the aunt was in her 80s, and elderly, they did everything to save her...

I am sure that good things and bad things happen in every single hospital and nursing home, and hospice in every single state...

I dont know for sure, but I would tend to believe, that wherever Terri Shiavo may have been, the end result may have been the same....

I for one, dont believe that Terri Shiavos feeding tube should have been removed..I do believe that she should have been given over to the care of her parents...

But if you really think, that what happened to Terri could happen only in Florida, or that Florida is an exception, I think you are wrong...what happened to Terri could have just as well have happened in another state...


160 posted on 07/06/2005 6:23:32 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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