Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said…"
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I haven't a clue what you are talking about.
Truly barbaric, pickyourpoison...and stomach-turning. And for a very small minority of conservatives to line so ardently up in agreement regarding this issue with almost every leftist, in pinning their *legal* (LOL) tail on a very rank donkey ass, is soooo...well...Clintonesque.
Just about every (if not every) Conservative of note, thought, intelligence and cognition, respect, and (major) command of/expertise in Constitutional Law, has come down solidly and resolutely, at every turn, that it was WRONG to kill Terri. And that's a fact, Jack.
You can dress up ONE backwater probate judge, his sole *ruling*, and his and HINO's backers in Sunday's best, and apply Tammy Faye amounts of red lipstick...but a pig is a pig is a pig. Always has been, always will be.
Yep, it was all a big conspiracy. Uh huh.
"So who should I believe, all the judges who heard this case and its appeals, or some people posting unfounded rumors on an internet site?"
The answer should be obvious, but I fear you'll be disapointed.
Thank you for this post, 8mm.
It wasn't so much a conspiracy as COVERUP AFTER COVERUP AFTER COVERUP. You need to see Greer's campaign tv commercial. That should disqualify him from the bench but it hasn't. There are only a few copies of it floating around on the internet.
...not to mention a veritable plethora of religious leaders from Roman Catholic to Judaism to Episcopalian to Southern Baptist...and all points inbetween.
They had her at their home, and returned her to the care center after a few weeks because they couldn't take care of her.
I agree...There are no "little green men" conspiring to influence public opinion and politicians concerning health care morality in the US.
We have our own masses of well paid wacko euthanasia/right to die lobbyists together with precedence setting lawyers paid by insurance companies trying to save a few billion bucks right here on earth to do that.
Okay.
COVERUP after COVERUP after COVERUP...
but NOT a conspiracy.
Makes perfect sense.
Fascinating, they do not see how transparent they look to new lurkers and viewers with a lick of sense.
Terri's case has 55 volumes. They affirmed Greer even though his error rate/reversal rate on appeal is over 70%. In Terri's case, he was affirmed although his regular record is POOR. Judges stick together which is maybe why most people think judges are crooks.
Take note that there is practically no Christian denomination in America that would have condoned Terri's death as it was carried out.
ADDRESS OF JOHN PAUL II TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS ON "LIFE-SUSTAINING TREATMENTS AND VEGETATIVE STATE: SCIENTIFIC ADVANCES AND ETHICAL DILEMMAS" Saturday, 20 March 2004
"....I feel the duty to reaffirm strongly that the intrinsic value and personal dignity of every human being do not change, no matter what the concrete circumstances of his or her life. A man, even if seriously ill or disabled in the exercise of his highest functions, is and always will be a man, and he will never become a "vegetable" or an "animal"....
I should like particularly to underline how the administration of water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represents a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act. Its use, furthermore, should be considered, in principle, ordinary and proportionate, and as such morally obligatory, insofar as and until it is seen to have attained its proper finality, which in the present case consists in providing nourishment to the patient and alleviation of his suffering.
.....As a pledge and support of this, your authentic humanitarian mission to give comfort and support to your suffering brothers and sisters, I remind you of the words of Jesus: "Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me" (Mt 25: 40).
"....WHEREAS, Western medicine has heretofore followed both the Judeo-Christian tradition and the over 2,500 year-old Hippocratic tradition forbidding physicians to assist in the death of their patients; and
WHEREAS, The Bible teaches that God created all human life in His own image and declares human life to be sacred from conception until natural death (Genesis 1:29:6 and following); and
WHEREAS, The Bible likewise teaches that murder, including self-murder, is immoral (Exodus 20:13); and
WHEREAS, American society seems to be embracing of the "culture of death"...."
Be it therefore RESOLVED, that we the messengers of the Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana, June 11-13, 1996, affirm the biblical and Hippocratic prohibitions against assisted suicide.."
...."Euthanasia is understood to be the view or practice which holds that a person has the right, and even the moral obligation, to end his or her life when it is considered to be - for whatever subjectively accepted reason "not worth living." Euthanasia advocates nearly always include in this assertion the right and duty of others, including medical personnel, to assist the person in fulfilling this purpose. Needless to say, the Orthodox Church rejects such a view, seeing such behavior as a form of suicide on the part of the individual, and a form of murder on a part of others who assist in this practice, both of which are seen as sins. Thus the Orthodox Church, in the words of 1976 Chrismms encyclical of former Archbishop Iakovos, considers "euthanasia and abortion, along with homosexuality...a...moral alienation."....
"....Today there are mounting pressures upon medical professionals, pastors, families, and individuals to hasten the death of those under their care or authority. Such hastening sometimes takes the form of direct action, such as a lethal injection. It may also take a passive form in neglect or withdrawal of the necessary means of preservation of life. Such means include medical treatment, both extraordinary and ordinary. But they also include basic provisions normally understood as care, warmth, cleanliness, food, water, and love.
Christians must distinguish between "treatment" and "care". Where medical treatment which is not gravely burdensome is necessary for an individual to continue to live, the withdrawal of such treatment - except in cases where death is imminent and inevitable and to continue such treatment would pose a grave risk or cause more burden to the patient than it would alleviate - is a violation of the image of God which all men and women bear..."
People in the county of death, Pinellas in the Starvation State of Florida, conspired to murder Terri and then there were the coverups. Don't twist my words. I said it was more of a coverup than a conspiracy but I didn't say it wasn't a conspiracy.
;-)
BEHEMOTH BUMP.
"It is the duty of the General Government to guard its subordinate members from the encroachments of each other, even when they are made through error or inadvertence, and to cover its citizens from the exercise of powers not authorized by law."
In the case Jefferson was speaking of a case in the Northwest Ordinance of separation of powers between the legislature and the executive branch of the Northwest Ordinance. And yet on your page, and in your views, you argue for the exact opposite if they don't agree with your views. A lot of the rest entails innuendoes of supposed relations between Greer, Felos, and certain judges. Have to hand it to you though. Haven't seen the 6th Amendment used as an argument yet. Although the 6th Amendment's original intent was the same as the 5th. Limitations on the federal government and not on the states until the 'divination' of the 14th in 1897
Does that mean that you deduct your expenses for food and hydration as part of your medical deduction on your tax returns?
That's all very pretty, and indeed, admirable. We'd all like to see the Constitution honored in its original form. But it is not so honored, and never has been. Jefferson complained that Madison v. Marbury overturned the separation of powers and ushered in judicial despotism, and it is hard to say that he was wrong. Albert Jay Nock observed wryly that the Constitution was disregarded so quickly that pleas for its restoration were heard before the ink was dry. We still hear such pleas and they still don't do any good. There is no chance the original Constitution will come back, either. Citing it is simply moot.
If the state of Florida played by ITS original rules, then it would be theoretically interesting to cite the original national Constitution, as you do. But if Florida were playing fair, would there have been a ruling to execute an innocent citizen? Of course not.
That doesn't compute. A reversal rate on appeal of 70% suggests that the judges did not 'stick together'. That they upheld him on this case, then, strengthens the notion that they believed he was right in his ruling.
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