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London bombings evoke sympathy in Middle East
Reuters ^ | 07 Jul 2005

Posted on 07/07/2005 1:58:04 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

LONDON, July 7 (Reuters) - Deadly blasts in London drew shock and sympathy from Middle Eastern capitals on Thursday, some of them all too familiar with carnage on their own streets.

"We've been experiencing terrorism for 30 years," said Samira Murr, a Lebanese teacher in her 50s, in Beirut. "It's like the Madrid bombings, like the 9/11 attacks. We feel we are not safe anywhere in the world any more."

In Damascus, Syrian businessman Majed Ali said: "I really hope this is not the doing of an Arab or a Muslim because our values are 100 percent against this devilish crime. If my own brother had done this, I would disown him."

Arabic satellite channels such as Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya broadcast live footage of the scenes of the bombings that hit buses and underground trains, as did Lebanese and Israeli media.

Iran and Syria, both on Washington's list of states sponsoring terrorism, joined an unbroken chorus of condemnation, as did the Palestinian Authority, the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas and Lebanon's Shi'ite Muslim Hizbollah guerrillas.

"The use of violence to achieve aims is condemned," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, in a message to Prime Minister Tony Blair, condemned "these detested acts".

Hamas, responsible for many suicide attacks on Israelis, said there could be no justification for the London bombings.

"Targeting civilians in their transport means and lives is denounced and rejected," Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy chief of the group's political bureau, told Reuters in Damascus.

A Hizbollah statement on the blasts denounced attacks on civilians, citing humanitarian, moral and religious grounds.

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom linked the attacks with the Jewish state's struggle against Palestinian militants.

"This attack shows us once again that terrorism is not Israel's problem only," he said. "Terrorism can hit everywhere and against everyone."

"WE UNDERSTAND"

Saudi Arabia's Social Affairs Minister Abdulmohsen al-Akkas said his country, battling a two-year wave of attacks by Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, knew what London was suffering.

"We understand. Since May 2003 we have been experiencing the horrors of terrorist acts," said Akkas, who was visiting London.

"Whoever did it, whether al Qaeda or the animal liberation front, they are animals," saidKhaled al-Maeena, editor of Saudi Arabia's English-language Arab News daily.

"Those responsible for this have no feelings or humanity," said Hassan Bannona, a 47-year-old Saudi aviation worker. "We feel for the victims as we have also been attacked in this way."

Leading Lebanese Shi'ite Muslim scholar Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah voiced outrage. "These crimes are not accepted by any religion. It is a barbarism wholly rejected by Islam," he said.

Yemeni doorman Aref al-Haymi, 28, said the bombings showed criminals were everywhere. "Everyone must cooperate to end this terrorism instead of accusing only Muslims and Arabs."

Lebanon, where bomb blasts this year sparked memories of its bloody civil war, expressed sympathy. President Emile Lahoud said his country "shares with the British their pain".

Some Beirut television stations interrupted their morning shows on cooking and hairdressing to air live footage of bomb sites, casualties covered in blood and rescue operations.

Egypt's Foreign Trade and Industry Minister Rachid Mohamed Rachid, whose country fought Islamist insurgents who often targeted Western tourists in the 1990s, said: "It is important to be brave in facing up to the scourge of terrorism."

Morocco, hit by suicide bombings in Casablanca two years ago, said the "heinous attacks" underlined the need for united international action against those who perpetrated them.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: freeangel

yes funny how that news footage seems to have gone missing


41 posted on 07/07/2005 5:26:08 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: Valin

Good posts!


42 posted on 07/07/2005 7:08:23 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: All
Here is a photo history of LONDON July 7, 2005

RememberThe11th.com/LONDON

43 posted on 07/07/2005 8:05:20 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (The scales of Justice are unbalanced.™)
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To: F14 Pilot
"The use of violence to achieve aims is condemned," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said.

And so if YOU can blame me personally that I did it, I can disprove it. However I've got a million terrorists that we fund, arm and train and we can blame them after all.

Iran's mullah's are so full of f&cking bullshit and deserved to be nuked and we take all their oil.

44 posted on 07/08/2005 4:32:07 AM PDT by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: rang1995
these arabs can lie 5 times in one sentence

I was listening to a program of the radio recently where the person was saying that unlike Judasism or Christianity, Islam has no such qualms or moral dictates such as the Ten Commandments = DO NOT LIE OR BEAR FALSE WITNESS.

They also went on to elaborate how in the islamic techings then, the good muslim has the right to even pretend to convert and disavow Islam IF it allows them to gain the trust & confidence of the group they are seeking to infiltrate and thereby destroy them.

In short, they are instructed to LIE to any and ALL extent if this allows them to destroy their enemies.

So organizations such as CAIR and their ilk are just classic examples of Islamic deception & propoganda and we must NOT fall for it. There is no such thing as a MODERATE MUSLIM!!

45 posted on 07/08/2005 4:42:15 AM PDT by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: prophetic

No such thing as a moderate muslim?

Okay I've tried to figure this out for a while, but I cannot do it so I shall ask directly.

On some WOT threads people will say the vast majority of Iraqi people want democracy and freedom and hate the terrorism in their country, but then on other WOT threads they say muslims are taught to hate democracy and freedom and love terrorism through the Koran. Considering that most Iraqis are muslim this position just doesn't make one ounce of sense.


46 posted on 07/08/2005 4:53:21 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: F14 Pilot
NOTE: NOT kill him for profaning Islam...NOT inform the authorities as to his activities and whereabouts...NOT kill him a a dangerous rabid animal!

Disown...meaning "You "F'd" up, and got caught, so I have to get some cover, and distance the REST of our operations from you, DUMMY!"

Right out of the Dick Turd bin Laden/DemonRAT/Communits playbook!

47 posted on 07/08/2005 5:18:37 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: E Rocc; MikeinIraq

:eyeroll: PING.


48 posted on 07/08/2005 5:21:08 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: Valin
Idiots like you are always pissing and moaning that Muslims NEVER condemn terrorist act. Then when they do, what do you do? Say you don't believe them.

Actually, only an idiot would believe Reuters. They are terrorist sympathizers to the point they won't use the word. I'm sure their quotes come from their terrorist buddies. But you can belive them if you wish, I prefer to be an "idiot".
49 posted on 07/08/2005 5:24:13 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: freeangel

"In Damascus, Syrian businessman Majed Ali said: "I really hope this is not the doing of an Arab or a Muslim because our values are 100 percent against this devilish crime. If my own brother had done this, I would disown him."

What about turning him in or shooting him in the back of the head???


50 posted on 07/08/2005 5:24:31 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Yemeni doorman Aref al-Haymi, 28, said the bombings showed criminals were everywhere. "Everyone must cooperate to end this terrorism instead of accusing only Muslims and Arabs."

Whom should we accuse, Mr. Doorman? Jehovah's Witnesses? The Amish? The NHL?
51 posted on 07/08/2005 5:26:41 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: bobdsmith
On some WOT threads people will say the vast majority of Iraqi people want democracy and freedom and hate the terrorism in their country, but then on other WOT threads they say muslims are taught to hate democracy and freedom and love terrorism through the Koran. Considering that most Iraqis are muslim this position just doesn't make one ounce of sense.

Thank you for being a voice of reason. I don't understand the motives of the "broad brush" comments made by some.

My own experience is that most Muslims are not terrorists and do not support terrorism. Of course, the bad ones get in the news all the time and therefore, people see them all as being evil and full of hatred.

My experience is primarily with Iraqis. I work with several, have made friends with several and interact with Iraqi business people on a daily basis. They hate the terrorists as much as we do. They're very much like we are and want pretty much the same things: freedom, peace and prosperity.

My experiences are not limited to just Iraqis and I have found the same thing among Jordanians, Kuwaitis and others. Most of them are just regular people (OK, some of the Kuwaitis can be kind of arrogant but I guess that can be said about any group), who hate terrorists and they sincerely want to live peaceful lives.

I admit, I may not have felt this way had I not come to the Middle East and seen these things with my own eyes.

But I am appalled at some of the comments about how they're all evil. Most of them just aren't at all.

52 posted on 07/08/2005 5:31:37 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: sofaman
Lets play name the liberal, who said this?

There is no terrorist threat. There is no terrorist threat. Yes, there have been horrific acts, of terrorism and yes there will be horrific acts again. But that does not mean that there's some massive terrorist threat.


I'll give you a hint: He is loved by DU'ers, fat, ugly, stupid, demented, liked to make propaganda films, smells, and loved by Hollyweird Castro loving elites.
53 posted on 07/08/2005 5:34:25 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Blah blah blah

Talk is talk. I want to see action.


54 posted on 07/08/2005 5:36:47 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

see reply 33


55 posted on 07/08/2005 5:37:52 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Allegra

I agree with what you are saying. However, they need to take care of their crazies like we are expected to take care of ours if we are going to mix our cultures.


56 posted on 07/08/2005 5:38:07 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Valin
My point was about Reuters and quotes from terrorist groups like Hezbollah, leaders of terrorist-supporting nations, and Muslim doormen that just don't get it. Are there Muslims like the ones you posted who hate truly hate terrorism? Certainly. But we all need to see them defeat it in their own midst, not just offer platitudes and sympathies after the fact while the US does all the heavy lifting and gets accused worldwide of being the aggressor.

Islam is a death cult, and those who do not perpetrate the death at the least stand by and allow it to foment in their mosques.
57 posted on 07/08/2005 5:55:59 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Valin
Let me add that Islam is the one major religion that does not clean its own house. Much harm has been done in this world from those professing Christianity, but other Christians eventually fought it and cleaned house (American Revolution, slavery, civil rights, etc). It was Chritians for the most part that have beaten back the major world threats - Nazism, communism, and now Islamic terrorism.

What has the Death Cult done lately, say the past 100 years or so? Develop despotic regime after despotic regime, create havoc in virtually every land they populate; distance themselves from every other major religion, usually violently; and lift nary a hand in international brotherhood. And we try to clean up their global mess.

Sorry, words don't cut it.
58 posted on 07/08/2005 6:03:06 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Tuba-Dude
In some Middle Eastern societies, being "disowned" by your family is one of the harshest sentences possible. There's a strong value embedded in belonging to a family--it's similar to the importance of Clans in medieval Europe (or thanes, like in Beowulf).
IIRC, the bin Laden family has disowned Osama.

-Eric

59 posted on 07/08/2005 7:12:55 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned on FR has never read a Middle East thread >:))
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To: RetSignman
muslim's from all over the world, including here at home, are denouncing the terror attack in London but where was all that denouncement after 911, especially from muslim's who are supposed to be born and raised here? Not a peep of denouncement from any of them.
That's bullclinton. The CAIR site documented denouncement from many Muslims, and the Washington Islamic center hosted President Bush's speech right after the attacks. Some here just refused to accept those denouncements as genuine. Just like some do now.

-Eric

60 posted on 07/08/2005 7:27:29 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned on FR has never read a Middle East thread >:))
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