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Terror on the dole (4-22-04)
Evening Standard ^ | 4-22-04 | David Cohen

Posted on 07/07/2005 2:35:12 PM PDT by libertarianben

Four young British Muslims in their twenties - a social worker, an IT specialist, a security guard and a financial adviser - occupy a table at a fast-food chicken restaurant in Luton. Perched on their plastic chairs, wolfing down their dinner, they seem just ordinary young men. Yet out of their mouths pour heated words of revolution.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; axisofevil; cultofdeath; islam; islamofascism; jihadinengland; jihadineurope; jihadinlondon; koranimals; london; londonattacked; muslim; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; religionoftolerance; rop; sandnazis; terrorism; terrorists; trop; ukmuslims; waronterror; wot
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To: Dark Skies

"Socialism is a cancer of the soul.
So is Islam"

Note the last 5 letters in 'SociALISM" spells ISLAM. The remaining 'SOCI'ety. ISLAM SOCIety...... think about it!

Both forms of govt. remove rights and foster poverty. Interesting, ay?


21 posted on 07/07/2005 3:03:19 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Dark Skies
Actually I was paraphrasing Chang Kai Check (sp?) who said "Christianity is but a rash of the skin. Communism is a cancer of the soul."

Islam is not our enemy. If you want to make it so, you cede to the terrorists ONE BILLION people; good luck with that. For myself I'd rather have the support of a democratic Lebanon, the protesters in Iran, the voters in Iraq, the reformers in Egypt.

I work with several Muslims who are loyal to the USA, hard working, and very religious. Just like nobody is as viciously anti-Communist as someone who escaped a Communist nation; nobody is as anti-Mullah as a Muslim who escaped their reign of terror.

All that aside; my point was that often times socialist programs allow a part time criminal to devote full time to their criminal enterprises.
22 posted on 07/07/2005 3:04:19 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yes, but with the American college kids, it's all just talk. They aren't remotely interested in blowing themselves up.


23 posted on 07/07/2005 3:05:40 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: libertarianben

What if we just switch their chicken with arsenic-laced pork??


24 posted on 07/07/2005 3:06:20 PM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: AdamSelene235

Nice. Bastard needs to be shot.


25 posted on 07/07/2005 3:09:59 PM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"They aren't remotely interested in blowing themselves up."

No need to now, is there? Just throw as many roadblocks in the way of preventing such attacks as you can, and there you go... suicide bomber by proxy.


26 posted on 07/07/2005 3:10:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: libertarianben

Prior to seeing the group at the fastfood restaurant, Sayful meets me at his semi-detached rented home in Bury Park, Luton's Muslim neighbourhood. He no longer works, even though he is able-bodied, he admits, preferring instead to claim housing benefit and jobseeker's allowance. He smiles sheepishly and says the irony is not lost on him that the British state is supporting him financially, even as he plots to "overthrow it".

British tax-payers supporting the enemy  -  & we are doing the same.  WHY? - the communist, socialist, liberal left is why.

But Sayful and his friends laugh at the idea that they are local pariahs. "The mosques say one thing to the public, and something else to us. Let's just say that the face you see and the face we see are two different faces," says Abdul Haq. "Believe me," adds Musa, "behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims."

Islam is not a religion, but a cult which must be recognized for what it is, then outlawed and utterly destroyed.  It is a dangerous serpent poisoning every life-sustaining vein of civilized society.  Only a New Crusade to cut off its many heads will rescue our civilization and way of life.

/rant

27 posted on 07/07/2005 3:17:26 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: libertarianben

We read and here a neverending stream of this filth yet don't say muslim and Geno**** in the same breath or you will be branded a fanatic. The solution is singular, simple and obvious but not easy.


28 posted on 07/07/2005 3:23:55 PM PDT by kublia khan (total war brings absolute victory)
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To: Mylo; USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
Islam is not our enemy. If you want to make it so, you cede to the terrorists ONE BILLION people; good luck with that.

You are, of course, welcome to your opinion. I didn't say that all Muslims are evil. But when they are called to the core of Islam by mullahs, they are called to kill infidels. If your Muslim friends do not hate Christians and Jews...and if they befriend them, they are (in the minds of serious Muslims and Islam itself) apostates.

It is the goal of Islam to dominate the world. You have heard that haven't you?

Learn a little bit about Islam. I think you will be surprised by its true intent.

29 posted on 07/07/2005 3:35:20 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Mylo
I work with several Muslims who are loyal to the USA, hard working, and very religious. Just like nobody is as viciously anti-Communist as someone who escaped a Communist nation; nobody is as anti-Mullah as a Muslim who escaped their reign of terror.

A Muslim who is anti-mullah is no longer a Muslim. It's like talking about a Catholic who rejects the authority of the pope, or an Orthodox Jew who rejects the Torah

You CANNOT be both a "very religious" Muslim, and also take the side of the US against fellow Muslims. Someone who claims he's a very religious Muslim and also loyal to the US is lying. It is central to Islam that the loyalty of Muslims is to Islam before all else, and to the conquest and subjegation of the non_Islamic world

30 posted on 07/07/2005 3:37:35 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.)
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To: Mylo
Islam is not our enemy.

Riiiiiight. Just like there are moderate Nazis and middle-of-the-road Communists.

It's time the planet is cured of the worldwide mental illness known as Islam. Destroy every islamic holy site. Vaporize Mecca, Medina, Qom, and their filthy mosque in our "Holy City" of Jerusalem.

Demonstrate to them that allah, their filthy moon-god, is worthless and impotent. Destroying their faith is the only way to win this war.

Think Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, Berlin and Dresden. We haven't had much trouble from the Japanese and Germans lately.

31 posted on 07/07/2005 3:58:31 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: 10mm
Destroying their faith is the only way to win this war.

There you go! How can we get the Prez and Tony Blair to understand that.

Islam must go...and the happiest folks to see it go will be moderate Muslims.

If we are going to win this war, we must strike at the heart of the enemy.

Striking the toe or fingernail of the enemy might slow it down, but it won't kill it.

Islam must die.

32 posted on 07/07/2005 4:16:33 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: libertarianben

The British are way too polite. They need to eradicate this scum from their country.


33 posted on 07/07/2005 4:37:20 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Dark Skies
Believers in Islam are also called upon to show mercy to the weak, not to deliberately target the weak. Those who deliberately target the weak are apostates to their faith.

Is not the goal of Christians to spread the Gospel to all four corners of the earth? So it is also the duty of Muslims to spread Islam to all corners of the earth. What is the difference?

I have read the Koran the Bible and numerous books on the Crusades. The fanatical blood lust of those times find a close parallel among religious zealots and religious absolutists on this site and among 'Al Queda on the dole' fanatics in Britain.

I suggest you learn a little about the Crusades and the folly of fighting a religious war in the name of a man of peace.
34 posted on 07/07/2005 4:38:19 PM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo; USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
Is not the goal of Christians to spread the Gospel to all four corners of the earth? So it is also the duty of Muslims to spread Islam to all corners of the earth. What is the difference?

Last response on my part, you are obviously not a Christian and you obviously know nothing of Islam.

Christianity at its core is to spread love. Islam at its core is to spread its cult of hate by any means possible...but the sword is preferred.

If a Christian decides to leave the faith, Christians weep. If a Muslim decides to leave the faith...death.

You must be living in a cave not to know this.

If you would like to learn about Islam and Christianity, let me know. Otherwise, see ya.

35 posted on 07/07/2005 4:49:25 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: libertarianben; All

This article should be mailed to everyone you know and posted at every website you visit.


36 posted on 07/07/2005 5:15:48 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Dark Skies; Mylo

1,400 Years of Christian/Islamic Struggle: An Analysis
By Richard C. Csaplar, Jr.
Guest Columnist





CBN.com – I was very disappointed to see that U.S. News would publish a clearly false article, adopting the world's clearly false, politically correct (PC) view of the place of the Crusades in history. What makes it even worse, the article hides its views under the additional headline falsehood, "The Truth About the Epic Clash Between Christianity and Islam."

Let me explain.

The opening heading states, "During the Crusades, East and West first met." This is just totally in error, as any person with the slightest knowledge of history well knows. East and West had been fighting for at least 1,500 years before the first Crusade.

To give just a few examples -- the Persians invaded Europe in an attempt to conquer the Greeks in the fifth century B.C. The Greek, Alexander the Great, attempted to conquer all of Asia, as far as India, in the fourth century B.C. Both the Persians of the east and the Greeks of the west set up colonial empires founded upon bloody military conquest. The Romans established by bloody military conquest colonies in Mesopotamia, northwestern Arabia, and Assyria in the second century A.D.

A different type of bloody conquest occurred through the movement of whole tribal groups between the east and the west. Again, just to name a few, the Huns, the Goths, and the Avars came from as far away as western Asia, central Asia, and China respectively in the fifth through the seventh centuries A.D. Indeed, the Avars from northern China and Mongolia were besieging Constantinople in 626 A.D., at the very moment Mohammed was a merchant in Arabia. Indeed, the Avars, by this siege, were one of the forces that weakened the Byzantines (there were many other, perhaps more important, forces) to the extent that most of the Byzantine mid-eastern empire fell relatively easily to the Muslims.

But let's give the writer the benefit of the doubt and say that the author meant that "During the Crusades, Islam and Christianity first met." This, of course, is also totally false.

Let us review the Muslim conquest. In 624, Mohammed led a raid for booty and plunder against a Meccan caravan, killing 70 Meccans for mere material gain. Between 630 A.D. and the death of Mohammed in 632 A.D., Muslims -- on at least one occasion led by Mohammed -- had conquered the bulk of western Arabia and southern Palestine through approximately a dozen separate invasions and bloody conquests. These conquests were in large part "Holy wars," putting the lie to another statement in the U.S. News article that proclaimed the Crusades "The First Holy War," as if the Christians had invented the concept of a holy war. After Mohammed's death in 632, the new Muslim caliph, Abu Bakr, launched Islam into almost 1,500 years of continual imperialist, colonialist, bloody conquest and subjugation of others through invasion and war, a role Islam continues to this very day.

You will note the string of adjectives and may have some objection to my using them. They are used because they are the absolute truth. Anyone denying them is a victim of PC thinking, ignorant of history, or lying to protect Islam. Let us take each word separately before we proceed further in our true history of the relationship between the Christian west and the Islamic east.

Imperialistic

The Muslim wars of imperialist conquest have been launched for almost 1,500 years against hundreds of nations, over millions of square miles (significantly larger than the British Empire at its peak). The lust for Muslim imperialist conquest stretched from southern France to the Philippines, from Austria to Nigeria, and from central Asia to New Guinea. This is the classic definition of imperialism -- "the policy and practice of seeking to dominate the economic and political affairs of weaker countries."

Colonialist

The Muslim goal was to have a central government, first at Damascus, and then at Baghdad -- later at Cairo, Istanbul, or other imperial centers. The local governors, judges, and other rulers were appointed by the central imperial authorities for far off colonies. Islamic law was introduced as the senior law, whether or not wanted by the local people. Arabic was introduced as the rulers' language, and the local language frequently disappeared. Two classes of residents were established. The native residents paid a tax that their colonialist rulers did not have to pay.

Although the law differed in different places, the following are examples of colonialist laws to which colonized Christians and Jews were made subject to over the years:


Christians and Jews could not bear arms -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews could not ride horses -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to get permission to build -- Muslims did not;
Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not;
Christians could not proselytize -- Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters when they paid their taxes; and
Christians and Jews had to live under the law set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law.
In each case, these laws allowed the local conquered people less freedom than was allowed the conquering colonialist rulers. Even non-Arab Muslim inhabitants of the conquered lands became second class citizens behind the ruling Arabs. This is the classic definition of colonialist -- "a group of people who settle in a distant territory from the state having jurisdiction or control over it and who remain under the political jurisdiction of their native land."

We will talk about "bloody" as we proceed. Because the U.S. News article related only to the Christian west against the Muslim east, except in this paragraph I will not describe the almost 1,500 years of Muslim imperialistic, colonialist, bloody conquest and subjugation of others through invasion and war to the east of Arabia in Iraq, Persia, and much further eastward, which continues to this day...read more...
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/Commentary/IslamHistory0212.asp?option=print


37 posted on 07/07/2005 5:28:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Mylo; Fred Nerks

Please read #37 below for enlightenment. That is, unless learning is against your religion or lack thereof.


38 posted on 07/07/2005 5:31:25 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Mylo; Fred Nerks

Hey Buddie...we have been nicer than others would have been. Don't you care about the truth. Or do you want to continue in the Lie...(as in People of the Lie...as in the Father of Lies...Allah...Al Ilah...Satan)


39 posted on 07/07/2005 5:38:03 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Fred Nerks

Thx Freddie...vanished in thin air. Must have a lack of conviction...or might be a muzzie. Whatever, he is gone.


40 posted on 07/07/2005 5:41:11 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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