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Looks like massive polluter NZ (0.2% of global greenhouse gas emissions) will be buying $1.2 billion worth of carbon credits from Russia.

Originally the Clark Government sold Kyoto to the populace on the basis that they would be selling $500 million in carbon credits.

I really can't figure how this achieves anything other than transferring wealth from tiny NZ to a collapsing Russian economy

Any ideas?

1 posted on 07/08/2005 2:57:06 AM PDT by Piefloater
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To: Piefloater

They could have renamed this article Atlas Shrugged


2 posted on 07/08/2005 3:03:12 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Life is full of choices, but you never get any.)
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To: Piefloater

"Carbon credits", LOL. This is the stupidest treaty of all time. Why anyone would sign on to this piece of garbage is a mystery to me.


3 posted on 07/08/2005 3:04:53 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Piefloater

Perhaps if everyone in NZ stopped breathing greenhouse gasses could be further curbed.

Save the planet, kill yourself.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 3:07:45 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: Piefloater

Another case of politians shooting themselves in the foot. Unfortunately, the whole country will feel the pain by damaging a good economy with bad science.


5 posted on 07/08/2005 3:08:35 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberal: A blatant liar who likes to spend other people's money.)
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To: Piefloater

Once again....Proving "Liberalism" is a mental disease...
It even destroys the ability to evaluate situations and determine the cost..

Semper Fi


6 posted on 07/08/2005 3:09:43 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Piefloater
"A report released this week by the PWC climate-change services team says Treasury calculations of the likely cost to the Government were "surprising"."


yeah everyone warned it would happen and now it's such a big surprise! Helen is an idiot.
7 posted on 07/08/2005 3:21:56 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Piefloater

Supposedly, the goal is that as you reduce emissions, your need to purchase credits goes down.

Not sure how you reduce those emissions...in NZ, sheep are a major contributor, I think I read somewhere.

But you are right...all this is is a wealth transfer system designed to slow economies and growth by siphoning off wealth.
I would liken it to slitting your own throat and smiling while you do it.


8 posted on 07/08/2005 3:26:37 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Piefloater
A global tax with the Communists as benefactors.

BTW Carbon is the basis of all known life forms..
9 posted on 07/08/2005 3:31:08 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Piefloater

Why, of course, the whole idea behind Kyoto is to remove wealth (and industry) from "the west" and hand it over to the "developing world." It enhances the self-esteem of the socialists in the west and enhances the bank accounts of socialists in the developing world. Environmental impacts are irrelevant.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 3:34:13 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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Points out a huge weakness in this boondoggle. How are the emmissions calculated and who verifies the numbers? How mutch can they fudge the numbers before they're caught?


11 posted on 07/08/2005 3:42:31 AM PDT by listenhillary (The interests of Muslims and interests of socialists coincide in the war against crusaders~OBL)
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I really can't figure how this achieves anything other than transferring wealth from tiny NZ to a collapsing Russian economy.

Any ideas?

Overthrow the government that signed the stupid treaty?

13 posted on 07/08/2005 4:10:58 AM PDT by elli1
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16 posted on 07/08/2005 8:21:32 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Piefloater

Ask any farmer anywhere in the world and he'll tell you that you can't predict the weather.

Then ask him if you can quantify weather in terms of dollars--and he'll tell you: "Sure, buddy, give me a few dollars and I'll guarantee you that the weather will change."


17 posted on 07/08/2005 9:07:43 AM PDT by wildbill
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