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Pfc. England Judge Refuses to Step Down
Associated Press ^ | July 8, 2005

Posted on 07/08/2005 5:37:32 AM PDT by robowombat

Pfc. England Judge Refuses to Step Down Associated Press July 8, 2005

FORT HOOD, Texas - An Army judge refused Thursday to step aside for Pfc. Lynndie England's trial on charges of abusing prisoners in Iraq, saying he was not to blame for her botched guilty plea in May.

Col. James Pohl rejected an argument by the defense that he asked inappropriate questions of a witness, the reputed abuse ringleader Pvt. Charles Graner.

Graner's testimony for the defense at England's sentencing hearing contradicted her version of what happened, forcing a mistrial that ended her plea deal and put the case back on track for trial.

"But for your line of questioning, we would not be at the point of mistrial," argued Capt. Jonathan Crisp, lead defense lawyer.

Pohl disagreed, saying the defense called Graner to the stand knowing his testimony would run counter to England's plea.

"Don't lay it on me, Captain Crisp," the judge snapped. "It was not the questions that caused the problems. It was the answers."

England, 22, a reservist from West Virginia who appeared in some of the most notorious photographs from the 2003 scandal, is the only soldier charged with abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib whose case has not yet been resolved. She faces two counts of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of committing an indecent act. The charges carry a maximum of 11 years in prison.

The hearing was scheduled to resume Friday with a motion by Crisp to remove some of the photos from evidence.

England's new trial is set to begin early next month.

The deal-breaking testimony from Graner came during questioning about a count of alleged maltreatment in which England posed for photos while holding a naked Iraqi prisoner on a leash. England had told the court that the incident was done to degrade the prisoner and amuse the Abu Ghraib guards, but Graner testified that the actions were to demonstrate and document a legitimate technique to coax a prisoner out of his cell.

The conflicting versions cast doubt on whether England knew she was committing an illegal act - a necessary state of mind for her to plead guilty.

Crisp contended that Pohl triggered the mistrial when he asked why the photo was taken. Once that answer was on the record, Crisp said, the plea was doomed.

But Pohl said he was obligated under military law to ask questions to clear up possible discrepancies.

Pohl also rejected other arguments by Crisp as to why another judge should preside over England's trial, including one that Pohl would have to be a witness at the trial to explain why he ordered the mistrial. In denying that claim, Pohl said he did nothing that would make him a witness.

To date, only Graner and Spc. Sabrina Harman have opted for trial on Abu Ghraib charges. Graner is serving a 10-year sentence for his role in the abuse. Harman was convicted of abuse in May and sentenced to about four months in prison. Six other soldiers have made plea deals that included sentences of up to eight years.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: turass

1 posted on 07/08/2005 5:37:32 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

11 years is way too long for putting a pair of panties over some Iraqui's head, I wouldnt give her 11 minutes myself. In fact I would have given her a transfer to Alaska for a year and that would have done it.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 5:43:17 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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In fact I would have given her a transfer to Alaska for a year and that would have done it.

Send her to graph for two years. Sure taught me a lesson.

3 posted on 07/08/2005 5:47:53 AM PDT by bad company (Then they say 'I came to the wrong jihad.'")
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To: sgtbono2002

This pathetic piece of trailer trash should never have been accepted into the service of her country. To add insult to injury, she has bred another generation with the seed of her abuser Graner!


4 posted on 07/08/2005 6:18:33 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: robowombat

good for the judge!

england--another example of a perp who plays victim.


5 posted on 07/08/2005 6:20:57 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: robowombat
Notorious photographs?

Leave it to AP to exaggerate. Or maybe they don’t know what the actual meaning of “notorious” is.

6 posted on 07/08/2005 6:32:12 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

well, you know that the nyt and wawa post believe that those photos are more "notorious" than the photos of 9.11--which they seldom print, or the current british photos.

the nyt had abu graib on the front page for 45 days.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 6:34:55 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: ken21

Well put!


8 posted on 07/08/2005 6:49:44 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: ken21

It’s sickening indeed.


9 posted on 07/08/2005 6:58:52 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

no·to·ri·ous
adj.

Known widely and usually unfavorably

I'd say the photos fit that definition.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 7:10:47 AM PDT by Bluchers Elephant
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To: Valin

thanks!


11 posted on 07/08/2005 7:11:50 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I guess that means you are glad she isnt your daughter.


12 posted on 07/08/2005 8:30:57 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Bluchers Elephant
no·to·ri·ous (no-tôr¹ê-es, -tor¹-) adjective

Known widely and usually unfavorably; infamous: a notorious gangster; a district notorious for vice.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition is licensed from Houghton Mifflin Company. Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

"Notorious" hardly fits the act.

13 posted on 07/08/2005 9:05:29 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: robowombat

Give her a year for being an unprofessional disgrace, then another 2 for her "I was ordered to do it, I'm a victim" BS.


14 posted on 07/08/2005 11:24:06 AM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
are you saying that the photos of pvt England are not among the most widely known of all the Abu Ghraib photos or that the photos are not usually considered negatively? When someone is making a comparison of any sort, you have to pay attention to the terms of reference.

There is, for example, nothing wrong with "James is the tallest boy in his class" but if you start expecting that using a word like tallest or a term like "most notorious" is an automatic comparison with everything that it has been used with previously, you may be a little shocked when you find out that seven year old James is really fairly short.
15 posted on 07/08/2005 12:52:25 PM PDT by Bluchers Elephant
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