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Tony Blair Says Leaders Must Faces Terrorism's Root Causes
AP ^ | AP-ES-07-09-05 0410EDT

Posted on 07/09/2005 1:38:05 AM PDT by TheOtherOne

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To: TheOtherOne

The root cause is NEVER about money. The root cause is Islam, the demented death cult.


41 posted on 07/09/2005 6:39:25 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: TheOtherOne; USF; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks
Blair thinks it is important that we understand the true cause(s) of terrorism and then proceeds to identify them as:

deprivation, lack of democracy and ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

Now contrast that with what Churchill said (The River War, 1899)...

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

One has to ask, why can't our leaders (Bush and Blair) call a spade a spade? Blair says we must understand the root cause...and then sidesteps the opportunity to tell us what it is.

It is True Islam, of course...nothing more, nothing less. Churchill knew that over 100 years ago and had the guts to tell us.

42 posted on 07/09/2005 6:44:42 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: TheOtherOne

Unless "root cause" means Clerics, then it's the same old, same old.

I know, the root cause of terrorism is global warming! That's it!


43 posted on 07/09/2005 6:47:19 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: machman

We should make the reconstruction of Islam a conversation topic with EVERY moslem we contact. Ask them, in a pleasant and hopeful way:

We: "Are you a reconstructed Moslem?"

He: "Uh, uh. No, I am a true faithful moslem. What do you mean?"

We: "I mean, does the denomination you belong to require its members TO DISAVOW those parts of the Koran that call for Jihad and Dar-al-Islam, and to embrace peace with Jews and Christians?

He: "No."

We: "Stay out of my life, then."


44 posted on 07/09/2005 6:48:24 AM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: EBH
Islam, like the abusive person, seems to have been able to destroy the free worlds self-esteem

You're giving them too much credit. There's two ways to looking at the issue:

Since libs are critical of Western Civ, any culture, society and/or enemy that successfully positions themselves as a 'victim' will have their support.

It really makes one wonder if the South, Japan & Germany had utilized this type of strategy. Oh wait, they did; which is why Lincoln, Wilson & FDR implemented all sorts of controls to suppress dissent that was really artful propaganda utililized by the enemy.

45 posted on 07/09/2005 7:15:57 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Dark Skies
Great post Dark Skies!

Winston Churchill wasn't a puppet to political correctness. Oh, for us to have another leader with the courage and wisdom of Churchill!

Until this cult is confronted and exposed for what it really is...EVIL, I'm afraid there will be no conquering this enemy!

46 posted on 07/09/2005 7:23:30 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Islam is the cult of death!)
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To: TheOtherOne
ROOT CAUSE NUMBER ONE: Letting Radical Muslims meet openly in London and breed other Radical Muslims.
47 posted on 07/09/2005 7:29:56 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: lucysmom
If Islam is the enemy, then we're going to have to bump off 20% of the world's population.

Other religions have had their split ups due to differences in theology. There may well be a branch of Islam that disagrees with the need for Islam to dominate the world. If so, they will stand up one day and divide the Islamic world into two groups. One group will continue with war and the other group will join the other religions who have already decided to behave tolerantly towards other religions. This is a long way of saying that some of the 20% will decide to live.

48 posted on 07/09/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: TheOtherOne
Fox and Friends was venturing into the therapy realm this morning before I changed the channels. Julian Phillips mentioned that more education need to be out there about why these people hate us. I reached my limit of tolerance and used my handy remote to shut him up. Information about what the fascist want has been out there for the longest, he just doesn't like the truth.

We really need a decent news program in the mornings during the weekend. There is nothing fair and balanced on Fox in the morning on Saturdays or Sunday.

49 posted on 07/09/2005 7:36:46 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: jan in Colorado
Thx Jan:

I really like Blair and Bush. But when a person doesn't speak the pure unvarnished truth, they are either lying directly or telling a lie of omission. I just can't understand how such good and natural leaders fail to speak the truth about the most important issue of the day.

50 posted on 07/09/2005 7:42:07 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: TheOtherOne

If you want to blame anything, go blame Muhammad. The root cause of terrorism is the Muhammedan religion which was founded by that blood thirsty psycho killer 1400 years ago. All Muhammedans are commanded to emulate the life of Muhammad.


51 posted on 07/09/2005 7:46:14 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: TheOtherOne
To get a picture of how much difficulty we're in, read Paul Sperry's book:

Infiltration : How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington

52 posted on 07/09/2005 7:55:40 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: lucysmom
If Islam is the enemy, then we're going to have to bump off 20% of the world's population"

Probably more like 12%, kill the barbarians and then civilize their children.

53 posted on 07/09/2005 8:51:05 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: PAMadMax

I agree the problem is ideology, not economics.


54 posted on 07/09/2005 10:16:58 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Dark Skies; Fred Nerks; USF; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger; Cornpone; ...
I just can't understand how such good and natural leaders fail to speak the truth about the most important issue of the day.

Truth isn't what is sought anymore Dark Skies. Political Correctness is the rule of law. We claim to have Freedom of Speech in this Country, but when the TRUTH is spoken the person is vilified or called intolerant.

The Truth is the Truth, and NOT saying it doesn't change that!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but [wanting] to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn AWAY their ears from the TRUTH, and will turn aside to myths." 2 Timothy 4:3-4

Although this Scripture was talking about Spirituality, the same can be said about political leaders.

55 posted on 07/09/2005 2:18:59 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Islam is the cult of death!)
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To: jan in Colorado
...but [wanting] to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires.

Amazing, but true. Hits the nail on the head. The Truth is the cornerstone of spirituality. Lying for political expediency negates spirituality even if that's not the intent. Sometimes I wonder if our leaders are not immature spiritually and therefore in over their heads.

As Rabbi Daniel Lapin says:

Politics is nothing other than the practical application of your most deeply held moral and spiritual values.

When a leader obscures the Truth or tiptoes around it, a shot is fired across the bow of the Spirituality (cap intended) of his/her followers, his/her nation, and, indeed, the world.

It is a blow to the Truth and a boost for the father of lies.

56 posted on 07/09/2005 2:44:44 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: Dark Skies
To go along with what you just posted...

"... but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but by the manifestation of truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God." 2 Corinthians 4:2

The attempt to legislate "hate crimes" is another campaign to silence the Truth and weaken this Country!

57 posted on 07/09/2005 3:35:38 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Islam is the cult of death!)
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To: torybaiter

Your use of 'mate' shows your lack of observation which in turn makes me question your IQ.... AKA.... 'your ignorance' level.

The incorrect use of 'your' in the first sentence along with your use of 'mate' tells me you are from....perhaps....maybe....'down under'????


58 posted on 07/09/2005 5:13:56 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Dark Skies; jan in Colorado; USF; CHARLITE

SATAN'S BARGAIN: Prophet of Doom (snip)

I have distilled a “Best of the Meccans” list of accusations against Muhammad and his claims from the hundreds that permeate the Qur’an. For your reading pleasure: “He is liar and a magician.” “He is possessed by devils.” “He is an insane plagiarizing poet.” The Meccans called him “a lunatic, a farfetched forger, a fool, a specious pretender, and deceitful.” “The unbelievers said: ‘He is a deceiving sorcerer, turning many gods into one deity.’” They saw an ulterior “motive behind the Qur’an. It is a fabrication.” “They laugh at the Qur’an.” “Allah hasn’t sent down anything. You are only speaking lies.” “This is nothing but pure sorcery.” “The unbelievers say, ‘The Qur’an is nothing but earlier peoples’ lore.’” “These are fables of antiquity which he has reinvented.” “What sort of prophet is this? Why was no angel sent to him?” “These are only confused dreams. He has invented them. Let him bring a miracle to us as the earlier prophets did.” “They say of the prophet, ‘He has forged the Qur’an.’” “We find him full of folly and a liar to boot.”
I have distilled a “Best of the Meccans” list of accusations against Muhammad and his claims from the hundreds that permeate the Qur’an. For your reading pleasure: “He is liar and a magician.” “He is possessed by devils.” “He is an insane plagiarizing poet.” The Meccans called him “a lunatic, a farfetched forger, a fool, a specious pretender, and deceitful.” “The unbelievers said: ‘He is a deceiving sorcerer, turning many gods into one deity.’” They saw an ulterior “motive behind the Qur’an. It is a fabrication.” “They laugh at the Qur’an.” “Allah hasn’t sent down anything. You are only speaking lies.” “This is nothing but pure sorcery.” “The unbelievers say, ‘The Qur’an is nothing but earlier peoples’ lore.’” “These are fables of antiquity which he has reinvented.” “What sort of prophet is this? Why was no angel sent to him?” “These are only confused dreams. He has invented them. Let him bring a miracle to us as the earlier prophets did.” “They say of the prophet, ‘He has forged the Qur’an.’” “We find him full of folly and a liar to boot.”
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter1.html


59 posted on 07/09/2005 11:35:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: TheOtherOne

The "Root" cause is the words in the Koran.


60 posted on 07/09/2005 11:39:24 PM PDT by John Lenin
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