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Kristol warns: Bush wants Gonzales for Chief Justice
Fox News Sunday | July 10, 2005 | colonel mosby

Posted on 07/10/2005 7:19:51 AM PDT by colonel mosby

William Kristol, who correctly predicted that O'Connor would retire before Rehnquist, now has a dire prediction. Kristol claims that Rehnquist will retire this week, and that Bush operatives are already clearing the way to nominate Alberto Gonzales for new Chief Justice. Kristol made the comments on Fox News Sunday, as part of the four member discussion panel.

According to this train of thought, according to Kristol, the White House believes that it can avoid Congressional conflict by appointing a moderate like Gonzales, and then balance it by naming a true conservative to replace O'Connor. This would effectively leave the current "balance of the court" intact.

Panelists Juan Williams and CeCe Connolly applauded this notion, and felt it was a worthy compromise. However, panelist Charles Krauthammer warned that appointing Gonzales to the court would be a huge mistake because, by doing so, Bush would "betray his base" and "betray his promises".

William Kristol said that a Gonzales appointment, or any moderate appointment, would be "incredibly demoralizing" and "disastrous" for George W. Bush, because it would completely alienate his conservative base, and cause a terrible fracture in the Republican Party.

There is more than one hurricane on the horizon.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chiefjustice; gonzales; kristol; scotus
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To: colonel mosby
Scalia needs to be made Chief Justice or he may retire as well, and who could blame him.

Who would miss him after his wimping out over using a marijuana case to knock a leg out from under the New Deal?

141 posted on 07/10/2005 9:18:08 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Justanobody

If he nominates Speedy Gonzalez, there might be a few more of us that refuse to call him PRESIDENT.


142 posted on 07/10/2005 9:19:34 AM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: colonel mosby

In light of the many disappointments brought to us by President Bush over budget deficits, rampant growth in the federal bureaucracy, refusal to do anything to stem the flood of illegal aliens streaming across the borders, and so on -

Is anybody actually surprised by this?


143 posted on 07/10/2005 9:20:01 AM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: coconutt2000; onyx; PhiKapMom
Psst... My reading shows that Gonzales is not pro-abortion.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

It took 104 posts to get to the FACTS!!!!!!

These people are believing what they read on a whole lot of web sites that do NOT know what they are talking about!

144 posted on 07/10/2005 9:21:10 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: inquest

I would not vote for Hillary.

I did not vote for Bob Dole.

When Republicans fail to understand this, they lose.


145 posted on 07/10/2005 9:23:34 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Yes, he did.

What are you trying to do, ruin their feeding frenzy?


146 posted on 07/10/2005 9:23:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ContraryMary
As far as I know, he overruled a parental notification law based upon a technicality.

Don't try to bring actual FACTS into this discussion, Mary!

147 posted on 07/10/2005 9:24:29 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: engrpat
Yes, Kristol is right. I fear that Bush couldn't care less about his "base". He is in his last term so the base doesn't matter anymore; its not like he was a party pilar before becoming President. I look for Bush to continue to alienate his "base" whatever that is.

Well, it looks that way and I do concur that it is the case. I think Michael Savage puts in it one of my favorite "Savage-ism" where "I feel like a gorilla in a zoo on Monday morning with low blood sugar after eating all the candy that was tossed over the fence during the weekend." I feel that way over he 2004 election. Sure it is better than having a Kerry Presidency, but I think in thel ong run, there are times I wonder if ot really matters if the Red Team or the Blue Team wins. I do feel like where religious conservatives and social conservatives are like the debutante at the ball who never gets picked to dance.
148 posted on 07/10/2005 9:25:37 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: newvista
There is no ambiguity here. He would be abandoning principles that he professed to in order to get the support of the folks who put him in power. I would be confident in proposing that nearly every person who pulled the Bush lever in November did so with the anticipation that there would be a significant opportunity to redirect the federal judiciary including the Supreme Court

First off - Gonzalez replacing O'Conner IS (would be) a significant redirection of the Supreme Court (for starters) -

Secondly, I guess Ronald Reagan abandon the whole Conservative movement when he appointed O'Connor - (so silly).

Lastly, GWB has been a man of his word. He has shown great leadership and thoughtfulness with many (if not all) of his decisions as CIC / POTUS - He deserves people to trust him at this time. He is constantly dealing with the treasonous Democrats while trying to be an effective CIC....they last thing he deserves is a bunch of whining so called "supporters" hounding him about he "will abandon them".

149 posted on 07/10/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: PhiKapMom; Miss Marple
Kristol does not have access to anyone in the WH that would be in the know!

Absolutely. And THAT is precisely what drives all these Kritol columns!

In 2000, he did NOT get a call from the Bush-Cheney team to come work in the White House!

150 posted on 07/10/2005 9:26:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: jammer
I understand your point, however, I have been noticing this for quite some time and mentioning it occasionaly.

Example: Senate Minority Leader blankity blank, D-NV
We all know who that is.

Or ... the number two demonRAT in the House, So in So ...
OR ... The top terrorist leader of al-Queda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, instead of Zarq. (we know who he is)

You get the picture. My comment was not only about this article.

151 posted on 07/10/2005 9:26:37 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: newvista

It might not matter is possibly true. It could be 1974 all over again, only lighter. So many people would stay home it would be incredible.


152 posted on 07/10/2005 9:27:16 AM PDT by joyspring777
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To: colonel mosby

Nominating Gonzales would be an unpardonable betrayal. Bush's approval rating will be <30% for the remainder of his term and he'll be an immediate lame duck for the rest of his time. He'll also go down as a carbon copy of his Daddy--a fake conservative who played the base for suckers to get elected.


153 posted on 07/10/2005 9:27:53 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Dawgreg
Some don't feel that he deserves "President" in front of his name and to them I say......

That is exactly right and IS the point.
And, thank you for your support of our PRESIDENT.

154 posted on 07/10/2005 9:29:08 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: Howlin; riri; jstolzen; Iwo Jima; John Robertson; inquest
"'The Pro-Lifer's deal was: we work out hearts out in election after election, for 32 years, and when you Republican leaders finally get control, you install judges who will overturn Roe.'

There was NEVER any such "deal" like that made by George W. Bush."

It is unfortunate that the appointment issue continues to focus on Roe v. Wade--the important objective should be a justice who is committed to application of the words of the Constitution instead of vague concepts of domestic policy and foreign "fundamental law" on human rights and relationships.

The word "abortion" does not appear in the Constitution. If the liberals want to see that word where it counts, they should amend the Constitution to put it there. If as they claim, there is a clear majority of Americans who favor the right to an abortion, the amendment process is available and ought to get the result the liberals seek on that issue.

Imoral; contrary to God's law; but a debate on an amendment that focuses on the extent and limitations of such a right resolves the problem without interference with the basic objective of appointing justices that will apply basic Constitutional legal principals to decision of legal controversy.

The so called abortion argument is intended to obscure the real difference which is not over abortion at all but rather over the application of clear constitutional principals of limited government to our political system.

155 posted on 07/10/2005 9:29:42 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: Dawgreg
Some don't feel that he deserves "President" in front of his name and to them I say......

That is exactly right and IS the point.
And, thank you for your support of our PRESIDENT.

156 posted on 07/10/2005 9:30:24 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: Vicomte13
Naming him would be betrayal of the pro-life base and breaking a campaign promise.

As if Bushes have never done that before.

157 posted on 07/10/2005 7:39:53 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Dawgreg

He works for me. I don't bow to any politician. Especially one who has assaulted the First Amendment and dumped more Big Stupid Government on me.


158 posted on 07/10/2005 7:41:21 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: DevSix
Furthermore lasting Gov't change is done via increments (in reality) and Gonzalez is head and shoulders above O'Connor to begin with. The fact is GWB knows Gonzalez much better than you do. Much better.

That is a completely idiotic statement. The Supreme Court is not a legislative branch which would implement incremental change. Having a solid conservative on the bench replacing O'Connor gets rid of affirmative action and partial-birth abortion. And you've read the Texas Supreme Court's partial-birth abortion decision (the one where Gonzalez calls the dissent - not Owens specifically - judicial activists), and have heard the stories of his watering down the administration's brief in the Bollinger decision, and you'd feel comfortable with him on the bench? Wake up, man. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Gonzalez is a man "in the mold of Scalia or Thomas".

And when did I suggest we should not trust Bush in his decisions on the war? You sound like a no-nothing liberal. Focus on what I'm saying to you.

159 posted on 07/10/2005 7:44:23 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, son of Jor-el!)
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To: Antoninus
Nominating Gonzales would be an unpardonable betrayal.

Careful!

That might be considered whining!


160 posted on 07/10/2005 7:47:31 PM PDT by airborne
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