Posted on 07/11/2005 12:47:25 PM PDT by Pikamax
Two things to keep in mind. When Karl Rove spoke to the reporter - IT WAS AFTER NOVAK'S ARTICLE - the article which had Valerie's name in it.
And .. if Rove was guilty .. why weren't the dems hounding Rove BOFORE THE ELECTION. Surely .. that would have been a way to try to damage Bush .. but I don't remember the dems making any fuss about it at all.
Leni
Dennis Miller for Press Secretary!
Dennis "BOMMER" Miler.....
Of course, in idiot Liberal Land this latest example of attack dog journalism doesn't prove that the Washington press corps is liberal. Oh, no. It merely proves that journalists have very high standards.
Really? When was the last time a seething liberal lunatic mentioned his name because he stuck his foot in his mouth? Never?
If that's being a bad press secretary, I can't think of what being a good press secretary would be.
Bush and Rove LIKE that Scott McClellan looks weak.
He is not there to look strong.
He is there to draw in the press, draw them in, and draw them in some more. They smell blood in the water. They rant, they rave, they damn Karl Rove and pronounce him guilty of a heinous crime, over and over and over. They bully McClellan. They are egged on by his dull, repetitive passivity.
So they get out on that proverbial limb, farther and farther and farther...Meanwhile, back at the tree trunk, Bush and Rove are sawing off the limb. People get sicker and sicker of and madder and madder at the MSM. Their ratings sag even lower. More people turn to Fox, talk radio, the internet, etc.
Now who do you think wins in those forums...
Hmmmmm???
I'm confused however. Let's say Plame was nobody important and everybody knew she was CIA, and lowlevel at that. Doesn't that mean a clerical employee in the CIA was allowed to boondoggle her husband into a glorious and fun-filled trip to Niger on the taxpayer dime? All in order to find out if one of the world's most dangerous dictators had the materials capable of bringing mass destruction to at least a portion of the world?
Folks, if that's the way the CIA routinely operates, then we have a bigger problem on our hands than the outing one agent, or the troubles of a presidential adviser.
That was just awful. McClellan needs to go.
[quote]I'm confused however. Let's say Plame was nobody important and everybody knew she was CIA, and lowlevel at that. Doesn't that mean a clerical employee in the CIA was allowed to boondoggle her husband into a glorious and fun-filled trip to Niger on the taxpayer dime?[/quote]
Why would you want to say that Plame was nobody?
Why would the CIA ask the DOJ investigate the leaking of a low level employee's identity? Why would the DOJ agree to investigate the leaking of a low level employee's identity?
In order to believe that Plame was a glorified secretary, you also have to believe that the prosecutor in the Plame case has spent two years and untold amounts of money investigating nothing. Moreover, why would an investigation of little importance require the President of the United States to retain a lawyer to help him get through over an hour of questioning by a special prosecutor?
In other words, if the Plame case is much ado about nothing, then we have to conclude that Fitzgerald is basically insane. Something tells me he is not.
Why did the CIA ask the DOJ to investigate? Because many Clinton flunkies are still at the CIA and have a vendetta against Bush. The CIA has leaked much info to the press...all negative for Bush.
I am looking forward to watching the libs cry again when they lose this bogus case as well.
I think McClellan did a fine job. He remained calm during a temper trantrum thrown by a bunch of prima donas. It is my opinion he has the second hardest job in the adminstration, only the President has a harder job. The only value of these press briefings is to put the stupidity of the press on display. I say let's continue to highlight their meltdown.
That's what worries me. They can't have it both ways. Either she's a nobody, in which case, no harm no foul for Rove, but bad PR for CIA, or she was more significant, in which case her identity may in fact have been a sensitive issue, and Rove may have goofed.
I don't like either scenario.
It really is not about HER significance.
First, she was more than a mere clerical employee. It seems her portfolio contained the WMD question...what I do not know for sure is was it just about the Middle East? Just about Iraq? Or was it a look worldwide at the WMD threat? But the point is, was she or not a covert agent? If "they" are all upset, it is about that.
Now, indications are that Rove had no idea WHAT she did at the CIA, just that it was common knowledge she worked there. He had no intent to reveal her status there, as he did not know it.
His whole point was that the White House itself did not send Wilson to Niger. It seems the Press thought Wilson was trying to find out things FOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, and had deliciously (for the Press) embarrassed his own "client".
Rove was telling Cooper of Time Mag not to put that in his story, that Wilson was sent by somebody else, not the Administration. Rove threw in there at the last of the conversation that likely he was pushed for the job by his wife who worked at the CIA (which everybody knew...that she worked there).
I see you are wondering how she had such clout if she was not important. I said she was of some degree of importance, not extremely so, but "they" are screaming because it is alleged by some that she was covert.
As to her clout in getting her husband sent on this mission, you have to remember that there are people in the CIA who have been leaking and everything under the sun to try to destroy the Bush Administration. So her suggestion could have been seized upon by them in order exactly to send her husband as the fact finder, knowing that he would write a report which would embarrass the Administration, knowing that even before he went over to Niger. It was a plot to destroy Bush on the matter of Saddam's Iraq and the Nuclear Threat, or lack thereof, in my opinion.
I have heard that Porter Goss, the new Director, has fired a number of people at CIA who had been there a number of years. I for one hope he knew who to fire and that he got the ones who were trying to destroy the Bush Administration.
I am talking about people who were more important than Valerie Plame, who would seize upon her suggestion to send her husband over there, knowing in advance that the fix was in, and do so with great relish, because they despise the Bush Administration for political/personal reasons.
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