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Bush backs Rove amid CIA leak "scandal"
Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, July 13, 2005 | By Joseph Curl and Bill Gertz

Posted on 07/13/2005 12:55:40 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

President Bush continues to have confidence in Karl Rove, the presidential adviser at the center of a press frenzy over the ongoing Justice Department investigation into a leak that divulged the name of a CIA officer, the White House said yesterday. "Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn't be working here at the White House if they didn't have the president's confidence," Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said. Asked whether that included Mr. Rove, the spokesman said, "Yes." But for the second straight day, the White House refused to answer questions about the case, which is consuming Washington and has become the prime topic of the White House press secretary's daily briefings. Mr. McClellan deflected questions yesterday, saying the matter is part of an "ongoing investigation." Mr. Bush ignored a question about Mr. Rove during a brief question-and-answer session with reporters in the Oval Office.

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1 posted on 07/13/2005 12:55:40 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I'm optimistic that by the end of the day, and this scandal is finally done and buried, Laurence O'Donnell and other assorted whacked Democrats find themselves gazing at striped sunlight.

This "scandal" is a non-starter.

2 posted on 07/13/2005 1:00:48 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: JohnHuang2

That vile John Stewart spent almost his whole "comedy" (really propoganda) show slandering Karl Rove last night.

What bothers me is that even though there was no crime here, Rove's reputation is being destroyed. WE know that he's a decent and honorable man, but most people have never heard of him before now. This is their first impression, and it's a negative one. Sickening.

Meanwhile, one of President Bush's most trusted advisors is having to spend his time dealing with this instead of helping the President on the vital issues that need addressing. Is it too much to say that all this is helping the terrorists?


3 posted on 07/13/2005 1:04:00 AM PDT by balch3
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To: JohnHuang2

I clicked the link and was disappointed to find that the Washington Times didn't have the guts to do what you did - - put quote marks around the word "scandal". Fortunately, this whole fabricated "scandal" is not something that the mindless chattering class can easily get its hands around, and everybody who has a clue understands that there's nothing to this whole fiasco, at least as far as Rove is concerned.

I do hope, however, that the special prosecutor starts indicting a few of the scumbag reporters for perjury, obstruction, etc. That will be funny. Meantime, I laugh every time I think about that chump Judith Miller rotting in jail just to protect the New York Times from embarrassment.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 1:06:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: balch3
Meanwhile, one of President Bush's most trusted advisors is having to spend his time dealing with this instead of helping the President on the vital issues that need addressing

And there is the motive.

5 posted on 07/13/2005 1:07:46 AM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Is it Watergate yet? Wake me up when we get there.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 1:10:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: balch3

Tom DeLay's "scandal" took the Democrats nowhere, they have to invent a scandal, and Laurence O'Donnell has had the long knives out on Rove for a long time.


7 posted on 07/13/2005 1:12:23 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: balch3

Don't worry about it, most of the population never even heard of Karl Rove. The 'Rats are wasting their time and effort.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 1:14:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: JohnHuang2

At the very least Rove is guilty of talking with the enemy. Course Bush family has Clinton for a friend. Birds of a feather.


9 posted on 07/13/2005 1:16:23 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: JohnHuang2
This scandal will soon be overshadowed by the Enron scandal which will be overshadowed by the Halliburton scandal which will be overshadowed by the Abu Grabe (sp?) scandal which will be overshadowed by the Gitmo scandal which will be overshadowed by the Bush AWOL scandal which will be overshadowed by the DUI scandal, u.s.w..

Other than the left wing high school history textbooks, nobody will care.
10 posted on 07/13/2005 1:16:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (J.Y. Chen, Chinese paleontologist)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh, yeah! I remember the Delay scandal. LOL!


11 posted on 07/13/2005 1:17:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (J.Y. Chen, Chinese paleontologist)
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To: Jeff Chandler

heh ;-) Well said.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 1:21:39 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Jeff Chandler

Yeah, that scandal revealed alot about just how crooked both sides are. Unlike DeLay, many Democrats didn't even account for the trips they took (which is a Congressional Law they themselves passed). All of a sudden you don't hear about that anymore. Now this Rove "scandal" comes along on the heels of this DeLay ethics scandal. For all intents and purposes, Jim McDermott should be behind bars serving some serious jail time. What he did was far worse than what either DeLay or Rove are accused of.


13 posted on 07/13/2005 1:22:26 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: balch3
They can't destroy Rove's reputation. The only people that hate Rove are the true-to-life weak liberals. They try and try and try again, and still, they can't hurt the administration. The liberal media just goes on a wild goose chase to take Bush down and they can't. Plame was not protected under the "outing" law, she wasn't an undercover agent, simply a CIA operative. Also, Rove never once mentioned her name and the Senate select commitee has a memo directly from Valerie Plame, suggesting her husband for the position, which he denied, denied, denied. That there already tarnishes his credibility which goes back to the real meat of the matter--why was he sent to Niger in the first place when he had no credentials to be there?
14 posted on 07/13/2005 1:25:16 AM PDT by angelr1076
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The RATS utter hatred of Rove goes way beyond what anyone can imagine! I believe they have a film out called the brain behind Bush or something like that. They feel if only they can get rid of him ,Bush and company will simply fold up their tents and go home. And then Lurch or Hillary can take over.I don't see the Rats letting go of this ''story'' anytime soon. They will milk it to the hilt. I work part time in a law firm and have asked the attorneys how they feel this will turn out. All of them have told me[and most of these guys are defense attorneys and way liberal] that Rove has done nothing illegal and cannot be prosecuted for anything,but don't expect the RATS to give up on this.
15 posted on 07/13/2005 1:30:16 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: Bush gal in LA

The best thing to come out of all of this is the Democrats remain in the minority for a generation or two.


16 posted on 07/13/2005 1:33:11 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: angelr1076

And turncoat Republicans. Someone said on another thread that he has to worry about getting backstabbed by members of his own party. I can think of a few suspects.


17 posted on 07/13/2005 1:33:12 AM PDT by kms61
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To: Bush gal in LA

The MSM would love to see Rove prosecuted, but I don't think that's really the goal. I think the main thing is just to smear him and distract the White House.


18 posted on 07/13/2005 1:34:52 AM PDT by kms61
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To: kms61

And I have to say it's working like a charm. A lot of high volume threads about Rove on FR over the past week. I guess it can't be helped, but FReepers are doing their part to keep the story in the front of people's minds.


19 posted on 07/13/2005 1:37:53 AM PDT by kms61
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To: Jeff Chandler
I had the EXACT same response when I read that post: "Oh yeah, the DeLay scandal, I'd forgotten all about that..."

I'm sure there have been several since the DeLay one went belly-up--funny how the dems were screaming about it one day, and not long after became mysteriously silent, though it was on the level of a national emergency for a couple weeks. Kinda like this one.

It really shows you where our MSM droids' values are; that stupid Aruba case was the top story, then the London bombing got rid of that. But they couldn't let national security or the war hold the headlines, so they started on this. If there is another REAL story in our near future, I can just picture that smarmy love match of Moran and Gregory open their reports with "The White House got a break from the Rove Scandal today when..."

20 posted on 07/13/2005 1:54:48 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: kms61
Yes, I'm sure tons of people are coming to FR and seeing those threads and thinking "Hmmm, I wasn't thinking about this story..."

It IS a major story, and if you want to cede the airwaves to the liberal smear, go right ahead. But maybe you should start by, I dunno, not contributing to one of those threads you are criticizing? Just a thought. ;)

21 posted on 07/13/2005 1:56:55 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: kms61
I think your right about them wanting to distract the white house. What gets me is the RATS hypocrisy knows no bounds. Today at work one of my coworkers who's a liberal RAT said Karl Rove should be taken out and shot for treason, He is endangering the lives of our soldiers. I wanted to say '' OH really, [this ''high operative'' of the CIA was a lowly researcher with a desk job] endangering the lives of our soldiers? HHmmmmmm? More than calling them torturers and Nazis and gulag keepers so ALgazeera can play it every day?But I didn't. I bit my tongue, I have to work with these idiots!.
22 posted on 07/13/2005 2:04:33 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: JohnHuang2; All
Proof that Rove was Right

23 posted on 07/13/2005 3:32:24 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: JohnHuang2

Interesting that the press that had demanded the investigation of possible retribution is bemoaning the fact that Miller and Cooper are being questioned(Cooper is married to Clinton aide Mandy Grunwald, no conflict of interest there,right?).

The partisan confines of the MSM do not tolerate the question as to whether this story may in fact have been a whistle blower against Plame and Wilson for abusing position. Valerie Plame has been found by the committee to have in fact used her influence to get her husband (big Clinton contributor) a plum assignment.

We also have learned that Wilson's own statements reveal that he saw classified documents before he was hired for the job (also a big problem with the law).


24 posted on 07/13/2005 3:42:10 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
They know that they have nothing on Delay. They are afraid to take him to the "Ethics" Committee, because the first order of business will be McDermott and they know that he will be expelled.

As to Rove, this is a big miss again for the 'Rats. I am almost convinced that Rove planned the whole thing.

Like your tagline by the way; one of my favorite songs. Can't hit the high notes any more though (sigh).

Regards,

25 posted on 07/13/2005 3:56:59 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Bush gal in LA
Karl Rove should be taken out and shot for treason

Of course, you could always reply, "I didn't know you believed in the death penalty."

26 posted on 07/13/2005 3:59:07 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Bush gal in LA
He is endangering the lives of our soldiers

And you could also say you also care about our troops, and hit him/her up for a donation for Give2theTroops, or the USO.

Or ask for things to send to the troops and mail them to me and I'll see they get there.

Currently we're looking for Playstation2 games to send to the Engineers in Baghdad that are rebuilding the infrastructure in Iraq.

OR better yet, Operation Crayon, to send school supplies to poor Iraqi kids in Kirkuk. What liberal can turn that down?

27 posted on 07/13/2005 4:04:30 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: balch3

My guess is that Karl Rove is just taking care of the President's business and not losing one minute of sleep over this tripe.


28 posted on 07/13/2005 4:31:55 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: balch3
I don't think Rove's "reputation" really is suffering any harm. What is he known for? Packaging candidates to win elections, good electoral strategy. How is that damaged? It isn't. He laughs all the way to the bank.

Bush isn't damaged, because it isn't going to touch him in any way, shape, or form.

Who is damaged? The MSM. Once again, they show themselves to be utterly incompetent at spotting real news and reporting real facts. If there WAS anything in the Rove story, it is their job to FIND THE EVIDENCE---which starts at the NY Times. But they really don't want to go there.

29 posted on 07/13/2005 4:47:26 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Bush gal in LA

Just laugh at them...out loud and in their faces.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 6:04:27 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: LS
Who is damaged? The MSM.

Especially after the last couple of White House press breifings. All of those idiots sounded like they were on the DNC payroll.

31 posted on 07/13/2005 6:07:41 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: EricT.

Well, the bad news is actually that no one listens to that crap. If they did, NBCBSABCMSNBCNYTIMESWAPOCNN would have no audience/readers/viewers whatsoever. None.


32 posted on 07/13/2005 6:18:59 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: balch3

I would bet a big bundle that Rove is spending almost NO time on this - the reporters are, and the libs are, but no one else is.

The time he does spend on it is probably mostly laughing.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 8:13:18 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Bush gal in LA

I work part time in a law firm and have asked the attorneys how they feel this will turn out. All of them have told me[and most of these guys are defense attorneys and way liberal] that Rove has done nothing illegal and cannot be prosecuted for anything,but don't expect the RATS to give up on this.
--->

Bingo! ... These folks are seriously funny. They'll bust head veins about Rove over nothing. LOL...


34 posted on 07/13/2005 8:16:22 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: kms61

this is entertainment, nothing more, for serious FReepers.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 8:17:21 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Bush gal in LA
"He is endangering the lives of our soldiers."

If the media cared about protecting our soldiers, they wouldn't have plastered Abu Ghraib photos all over the front pages for two months. It was totally unnecessary, the military was investigating, and all those photos did was inflame the terrorists even more, give them an excuse for even more killings.
36 posted on 07/13/2005 8:18:22 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Bush gal in LA

" I believe they have a film out called the brain behind Bush "

I watched " Karl Rove- Bush's Brain " this past week end.
It was a poorly done " documentary."
The film interviewed former college rivals , defeated Texas candidates, convicted Texas Democrats ,disgruntled McCain aides, liberal anti Bush reporters and Molly Ivins.
Every single person blamed Karl Rove for their troubles, but, every single person added the disclaimer that " they had no proof ,there was no evidence, but, they just knew Karl Rove was responsible."
It was an orgy of paranoia completely lacking in substance.
One of my favorite clips was a group of Texas Democrats who were investigated by the FBI , indicted, convicted and sent to prison.
They are convinced that Karl Rove orchestrated everything from the FBI investigation to the evidence to the indictments to the jury conviction, etc.
And these people were deadly serious.
The other funny clip was a Washington Post reporter ( IRRC ) who was convinced that Karl Rove leaked Plame's name " because they both attend the same Episcopal church in DC."
The only thing they didn't blame Rove for was the Lindbergh kidnapping , but, I am sure it's just a matter of time.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 11:24:35 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: JohnHuang2
here's the reason this is a "SCANDAL." ....these people are SCANDAL STARVED. see, we had so much to be upset about and there were so many scandals in the clinton era because of all the cheating, graft and lying going on that these peeps (the libs and press) think turnabout is fair play.

they think it is only right that they get their share of impeachment proceedings and special prosecutors in. unfortunately for them, those things are at a minimum with this admin so they have to fabricate scandals.

i feel kind of sorry for them really. it's pretty pathetic.

38 posted on 07/13/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
After reading your post I was laughing so hard I now HAVE to go out and rent the film. It sounds hysterical! ''It was an orgy of paranoia'' what a great line! Yeah! These people defiantly live on'' conspiracy theories.'' They are all around them. The conspiracies go all the way from the ordinary ones like when I went to a fund raiser for Bush here in Santa Monica. There was a huge turnout for Bush on the streets with our ''Welcome to LA'' signs and the Kerry crowd showed up to harass and jeer us and were so angry cause so many Bush supporters showed up.Two Kerry creeps came up to me and my friend and screamed '' You guys were all'' bussed'' in by Karl Rove and everybody knows it!I guess it was too much for their little minds to grasp that there are actually Bush supporters that live right here in Los Angeles. It goes all the way from that to on the night of the election........A women who's a second grade teacher[this it what makes it scary]........recently made a statement that .......Bush had a ''secret computer'' under his bed and on the night of the election he and Karl Rove were manipulating the numbers of votes they needed to get Bush over the top and win the election! .........This women is a teacher!!! These people are nuts and I pray that they never get the reigns of power again cause I would be scared for my country!
39 posted on 07/13/2005 3:11:06 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: balch3
What bothers me is that even though there was no crime here, Rove's reputation is being destroyed.

Mr. Rove knows that he is playing with the big boys (and girls). He took on this job by choice and is stunningly successful which is why there is a great big target on his back.

And, I betcha they're not spending very much time on it at all. They're working on SCOTUS nominations. So as hard as it is to watch, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this. Mr. Rove will be just fine, because it's his job, and in the end he will win.

40 posted on 07/13/2005 3:16:50 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: wildwood
Yep. Their motto should be: Outrage...it's not just emotion, it's a lifestyle!
41 posted on 07/13/2005 3:24:15 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
Outrage...it's not just emotion, it's a lifestyle!

doncha think they'd just get tired?i mean, what a waste of energy and a life. you are so absolutely right. they just think of one reason or another to be angry and protest something.

they stand for nothing, just dissent. how pathetic.

42 posted on 07/13/2005 4:06:12 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: wildwood
doncha think they'd just get tired?

You'd think. The saddest part is that it cheapens things that are truly outrageous and give us no cultural measuring stick for right and wrong.

Outrage should be reserved for men who murder entire families to steal their children, terrorists who blow up average citizens in the name of God, and diplomats at the UN who steal from the hungry to line their own pockets.

Talk about a group who doesn't understand that things aren't black and white. For all their talk of nuance, they have none. Outrageous or Perfect.

Yep, tired. It makes me tired to have to listen to it.

43 posted on 07/13/2005 4:15:39 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
Talk about a group who doesn't understand that things aren't black and white. For all their talk of nuance, they have none.

i probably part ways with you there. i think these people, the wacky left, completely understand the blacks, the whites, and the greys. i think they understand nuance.

so much so, that they are cunningly conniving that they can barter with our country's security for their own personal gain. they can barter with the safety of our troops, mitigating their treasons by claiming to "support the troops," perhaps even sporting a yellow car magnet next to their STOP BUSH NOW bumper stickers.

it's evil, what they are doing, and i think they know it but are willing to gamble to get out of the cold.

i did not ever think i would see a day such as this. my friends who are "anti-war' wax eloquent about the "poor kids" who are pawns in "bush's army," but they have no solutions...just "erase the hate" slogans, as if denying that there is such a thing as evil and pretending that some day we will all just "get along" will make the terrorists go away, or love us, or at least blow up only europe.

it's a bargain with the devil they have made. and they will pay for it, in ways we have not yet seen.

44 posted on 07/13/2005 4:40:35 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: wildwood
I don't think it's just about'' payback,'' cause Clinton was impeached. I believe even without Clinton ever being impeached they're hatred of Bush would still be absolutely out of control. These Rats are constantly looking for another'' Watergate,'' they figure hey, if we can't vote him out lets find something ,ANYTHING so the guy will be so embarrassed and or damaged he will simply have to resign. They're hatred knows no bounds. I really have never seen anything like it! But I keep thinking, do these dummies realize if Bush were ever to resign , that Cheney would take over and become president? Not Hillary or Lurch or even Howard Dean!
45 posted on 07/13/2005 4:53:22 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: Bush gal in LA
oh, bush is just a symbol of how much they hate US. (why do they hate conservatives? who cares. hatred needs neither explanation nor excuse.)

i am convinced no matter what republican had won, this situation would exist. they are simply opportunists, valuing a return to power more than national security or the lives of our soldiers.

your last point is amusing and so true. it exemplifies the problem...they just want the power back, however they can get it.

46 posted on 07/13/2005 5:06:05 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: wildwood

Actually, I totally agree with your point. My b/w comment related specifically to their rhetoric, not their behavior. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer on that point.


47 posted on 07/13/2005 6:19:25 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: kms61

What are we supposed to do, just sit back and say nothing while they lie and lie and lie some more? If so, we may as well be back in the old days of the MSM monopoly.


48 posted on 07/13/2005 6:23:52 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: patriciaruth; Bush gal in LA
Of course, you could always reply, "I didn't know you believed in the death penalty."

You could also say, "So terrorists should get access to our courts and our due process, but Rove shouldn't?

49 posted on 07/13/2005 6:27:09 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Bush gal in LA
Today at work one of my coworkers who's a liberal RAT said Karl Rove should be taken out and shot for treason, He is endangering the lives of our soldiers.

If your liberal RAT friend wasn't so steeped in hatred for this administration he/she wouldn't be making such assinine statements in the first place. Most of my RAT liberal friends can't believe the Democrats are even foregoing this lamebrain effort. This whole thing is two years old and this is the best the Democrats can do to put a best face on Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame? Good Lord!

50 posted on 07/13/2005 8:52:41 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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