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Byron York: There's a lot we don't know yet about the CIA flap
The Hill ^ | 7/13/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by Jean S

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To: Howlin
Matthews never ever says that she wasn't undercover and that the Senate Intelligence Committee said Wilson was an out and out liar.

Deborah Orin brought that up the other day

Chris acting like he didn't hear a thing she said

61 posted on 07/13/2005 4:43:37 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Howlin
And she's not going to name that Democrat.

Agreed ... but it will eventually come out

It always does

62 posted on 07/13/2005 4:44:26 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Shermy

I agree. Even a few folks on this site need to take those three little words to heart.


63 posted on 07/13/2005 4:45:12 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed contempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; hole_n_one; Ole Okie; Mo1; cyncooper; kcvl

For people who like stuff like this:

http://eyeball.sabotage.org/plame-eyeball.htm


64 posted on 07/13/2005 4:47:22 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Howlin
My bet is that Judith Miller was that reporter

I think so too. Or else she wouldn't be sitting in jail if the source was Karl Rove since he signed the waiver over a year and a half ago. I think ole' Matt and Judith are in a predicament of their own making. lol! And so is the New York Times.

65 posted on 07/13/2005 4:49:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin

Schrum is on Hardball claiming he has never met Joe Wilson and has never talk to him in his entire life


Hello??


66 posted on 07/13/2005 4:50:02 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Howlin
She was in Brussells until '97.

Aldrich may have given her up in '94, but that doesn't mean anyone knew it then.

67 posted on 07/13/2005 4:51:07 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

The CIA knew it.

Who says she was in Brussels?


68 posted on 07/13/2005 4:52:55 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Mo1; kcvl

Nice house, huh?

(BTW, you all have GOT to get Google Earth!)

69 posted on 07/13/2005 4:53:49 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: JeanS
I don't know either. I only wish I could care, but I don't.

This reminds me of a magician who gets his audience to watch his face or his hat so they won't concentrate too hard on his hands where the trick is done.

Whatever finally comes out about the Plame outing, it will pale in comparison to the great damage done by an unnamed speechwriter who put those 16 words in Bush's 2003 State of the Union address.

That's where the investigation should have been centered, IMHO.

Instead we are told it's all about politics.

Yeah, sure.

70 posted on 07/13/2005 4:55:53 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Howlin

Who's house is that?


71 posted on 07/13/2005 4:59:22 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Mo1

liberal political consultant Bob Shrum—a Novak friend and source for thirty years—has long provided Novak with scoops from inside the Democratic Party


******


Bob Shrum worked for John Kerry and so did Joe Wilson. He is lying.


72 posted on 07/13/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: JeanS
The bottom line is, some of the most critical facts in the whole Wilson/Plame/CIA matter are just not known, at least not known by anyone outside of the Fitzgerald investigation.

Courts leak, counsels talk and jurors chat. I think it safe to say, Fitzgerald isn't the only one who knows what's going on. What we hear are leaks, planted leaks and guesses.

73 posted on 07/13/2005 5:06:56 PM PDT by fso301
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To: blogblogginaway
Speaking of 1997 :

circa 1997 : (VALERIE PLAME OUTS HERSELF TO A C-in-C US ARMED FORCES IN EUROPE POLITICAL ADVISOR, WILSON, THAT SHE IS IN THE CIA, ACCORDING TO LATER REPORT BY MAUREEEN DOWD OF THE NY TIMES) Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson both happened to alight in Washington, their jet-set schedules intersecting, and spotted each other across a cocktail party filled with foreigners."I saw this striking blonde," he recalled, still sounding smitten six years later. At first she said she was an energy analyst, but confided sometime around the first kiss that she was in the CIA. "I had a security clearance," grinned Wilson, then a political adviser to the commander of U.S. forces in Europe. - "Maureen Dowd : Ambassador Wilson and the Spy Who Loved Him, " NY Times, October 3, 2003

1997 : (WILSON RETURNS FROM OVERSEAS TO WASHINGTON AS SENIOR DIRECTOR OF AFRICAN AFFAIRS AT THE NSC) That same year [1997], Wilson also came back to Washington, as a senior director for African affairs at the National Security Council...A source, however, says that Wilson was not universally popular, because of what was perceived to be too strong sympathies for the interests of the Africans and Europeans. via FR's seamole, Jan 2, 2004*

1997 : (WORLD BANK RECEPTION ORGANIZED BY WESTAR GROUP : JOSEPH WILSON MEETS MOHAMED AL AMOUDI) Joseph Wilson IV. The latter had already met Mohamed Al Amoudi in 1997 at the time of a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group (LAW n.794). --- "(Some) Well introduced businessmen ," The Letter of The Indian Ocean, October 23, 1999 via 100 posted on 06/26/2004 6:42:46 PM PDT by Shermy
Wilson ran his company out of the offices of an investment company called Rock Creek Corporation. Rock Creek was controlled by Mohammed Alamoudi, whom Wilson had met in 1997 at a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group. Alamoudi was a member of the Saudi-Ethiopian Alamoudi dynasty, which was heavily invested in the segments of the African economy Wilson was seeking to penetrate. The Alamoudi-affiliated company Delta Services--a Swiss subsidiary of the Saudi company Delta Oil--handled Iraqi oil export contracts in 2000 and 2001 and was revealed in 2003 as a recipient of Iraqi Oil-for-Food vouchers channeled through Abu Abbas, a Palestinian terrorist with Iraqi connections.
--- "What Wilson Didn't Say About Africa," Fedora, Original Freeper Research, Oct 25, 2004, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256475/posts

74 posted on 07/13/2005 5:07:09 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Mo1

Valerie and Joe's place.


75 posted on 07/13/2005 5:08:51 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Bar-Face
Well, I sure as heck don't know. But I would bet real American dollars that Rove will let us know when he is good and ready. Probably right after he is fired.

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...



...about the fact that you 'sure as heck don't know', that is.

76 posted on 07/13/2005 5:13:37 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Howlin
My bet is that Judith Miller was that reporter -- and now Miller is refusing to say WHO told her about Plame.

Mm hmm. Bet that's it. It certainly can't have anything to do with journalistic integrity. It's CYA and CDA all the way.

77 posted on 07/13/2005 5:17:12 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Howlin
Every single published source I've seen. You got any that say '94?

Here's her Who's Who entry - whodathunkit? Note that until '97 she was still working for Joulware in Europe, then back to DC

Birth: November 6, 1949 in Bridgeport, Connecticut, United States

Occupation: Ambassador

Source: The Complete Marquis Who's Who TM. Marquis Who's Who, 2003.

Family: s. Joseph Charles III and Phyllis (Finnell) W.; m. Susan Dale Otchis, Apr. 27, 1973 (div. 1986); m. Valerie Elise Plame, Apr. 3, 1998; children: Sabrina Cecile, Joseph Charles, Trevor Rolph, Samantha Finnell Diana.

Education: BA, U. Calif., Santa Barbara, 1972.

Avocations/Research/Interests: golf, bicycling, fitness

E-mail: joewilson@rockcreekcorp.com

Memberships: Am. Polit. Sci. Assn., Am. Fgn. Svc. Assn. (William R. Rivkin award 1987), U. Calif. Santa Barbara Alumni Assn., San Onofre Surfing Club.

Addresses: Office, Ste #300, 1717 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC, 20006-4619.

Recipient Disting. Alumni award U. Calif. Santa Barbara, 1991, Comdr. Order of Equatorial Star govt. Gabon award, 1995, Disting. Def. Dept. Civilian award, 1997; named hon. adm. County Commr., El Paso, Tex., 1991.

Positions Held: pres., JC Wilson Internat. Ventures, Washington, 1998; spl. asst. to pres., sr. dir. for African affairs, Nat. Security Coun., Washington, 1997-98; polit. adv. to Commdr. in Chief, U.S. Armed Forces Europe, 1995-97; amb., Gabon, Sao Tome and Principe, 1992-95; dep. chief of mission, Am. Embassy, Baghdad, Iraq, 1988-91; dep. chief of mission, Am. Embassy, Brazzaville, Congo, 1986-88; dep. chief of mission, Am. Embassy, Bujumbura, Burundi, 1982-85; congl. fellow, Am. Polit. Sci. Assn., Washington, 1985-86; fgn. svc. officer, Dept. of State, Washington, 1976-98. Career-Related: Adj. scholar Mid. East Inst., 2002.

78 posted on 07/13/2005 5:17:33 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Howlin

Where's John LeCarre when we need him? :o)


79 posted on 07/13/2005 5:19:00 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: lugsoul
You got any that say '94?

I just linked one to you. Don't you read anything that might conflict with what you think?

80 posted on 07/13/2005 5:20:03 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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