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Rush Limbaugh: Media Opposition Party Will Lose to Rove
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 7/13/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/13/2005 5:58:03 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

People are always begging for a third party to emerge. Constitution, Libetarian, Green...

Folks, meet the Third Party! The MSM.

We knew this, though. They admitted they were good for about 15% in the last election. So, really, the Democrat support numbers only in the high '30's without them. Take away the fraud and they are looking at the lower end of the '30's.

Anyway, on a part I'm amused when I hear they fear Karl, Delay, Bush, Rush, Christians, the American people basically. Another part just shakes my head. I'm fine with them fearing us as it works from a strategic standpoint but I don't fear them and I don't fear anyone from our side. I fear certain ideas being given power by some individuals. No one person, though, is invincible. This is why I don't fear Hillary. She has no power that isn't given to her. She wasn't born with it, it can be stripped away in one night. 200 years from now she'll be lucky to be rate a paragraph in history books so why would I fear the woman?


21 posted on 07/13/2005 7:07:58 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: PilloryHillary
You should have posted a barf alert ahead of that pic!

Cooper, however, is her perfect match in every way.

22 posted on 07/13/2005 7:10:39 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Dead Wrong. MSM + Democratic Party = Democratic Party, now and always has been (well 45 years anyway). For MSM = Oppositon Party, they would have to swing to the Republican side when Democrats in control, which you know they didn't.


23 posted on 07/13/2005 7:14:53 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Auntie Dem
You should have posted a barf alert ahead of that pic!

Sorry about that. I tried to find a small one. ;-)

24 posted on 07/13/2005 7:15:58 PM PDT by PilloryHillary
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To: PilloryHillary

Someone actually married this goat????? Wow! Must be great when they turn the lights out!


25 posted on 07/13/2005 7:17:17 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Doc Savage

Dang! That's Mandy Grunwald???? I thought that was a picture of David Brenner!


26 posted on 07/13/2005 7:32:01 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!; Doc Savage

Cooper is no prize either...the scary thing is that they have reproduced...


27 posted on 07/13/2005 7:37:54 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The real Supreme Court meets up here...God)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Here's something I see nobody mentioning. This whole "investigation" has been going on since well before the 2004 election. If Rove did in fact do something illegal, one could assume there may have been an attempt to stretch out any investigation until after the election so Rove could work his magic, and Bush could stay in the WH.

Then, with the election in the bag, Rove could have bowed out gracefully and returned to the private sector to make a gazillion dollars. The investigation would have been concluded some time later, and maybe he got in a little trouble, maybe even a suspended sentence and a fine. Minor to medium media doorstop, and that would have been the end of it.

But, what actually happened? Rove stays in the Administration, and is in fact PROMOTED by Bush to Deputy COS. Now, Rove knows what he did, said, did not say, testified to before the Grand Jury, etc. He probably had a pretty good idea how this would play out. And instead of bowing out, he has stayed around and laid low, as is his style. The WH has not overreacted.

This all tells me that Rove is clean, and is once again playing chess against checkers players.
28 posted on 07/13/2005 7:42:23 PM PDT by EagleClaw
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To: gusopol3

Why would they swing to Republicans if their views are not aligned? That makes no sense.

No. Wrong outlook. You need to look at how political parties are structured in Europe. One is a Liberal party. Another is a far left socialist party. Another one further left toward communism. They join together to create a blocking block. This is in effect what the MSM & the DEMs have done.

They work together because they have the same agenda. But the MSM does not take orders from the Dems. For instance, it is not the DEMS driving this particular story. It is the MSM. The Dems as part of the block of power are being dragged along for the ride, and because they have similiar interests to defeat this administration.


29 posted on 07/13/2005 7:53:34 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

To me, the media as a true opposition party would include skepticism of the agenda of whichever political party was in power. That would be a legitimate function, but would require a diversity of input. I still say MSM+Democratic Party = Democratic Party.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 8:00:59 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: wagglebee
But the New York Times will not let her or she will not do it herself, whichever is the case -- and I maintain, as I said yesterday -- there's something really embarrassing here that she's trying to hide and what I said yesterday has spawned a lot of speculation yesterday afternoon and last night on blogs. Who is she protecting? Does she even have a source? Did she do a Jayson Blair and make it up? Is she herself the source?

I wondered today about another angle on her: did she see a possibility to nail the much-hated Rove and kept her mouth shut as a selfless sacrifice for the Left?

Given the new political spin the commies are putting on it as Rush indicated, I wouldn't be too surprised if she decided to come forward with the source's name soon.

31 posted on 07/13/2005 8:10:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: wagglebee
All they're doing is creating millions of friends for Karl Rove

Where have I heard this before ?? Hmmmmmm ... "The only thing that the US is doing in Iraq is just creating more terrorists"

Seems like the Dems and their MSM shills are doing the exact same thing here at home, re: with their attacks on anything and everything Bush (and/or Republican)

32 posted on 07/13/2005 8:12:17 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: wagglebee

Can anyone out there get a screencap of evil Karl Rove (cue the wolf howl) from the AMERICAN DAD episode that aired a couple of weeks ago? I say we embrace his 'evil-ness' and start using it to our advantage!

BTW, the episode was hilarious!


33 posted on 07/13/2005 8:23:49 PM PDT by Hessian (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: gusopol3

And you don't think the Dems are sceptical of the Democrats? The fact they are making calls on some of the agenda and the Dems are being dragged along is proof they don't have confidence in the Democrats. They have lectured the Democrats about how to campaign against the Republicans, about what they are doing wrong.

They ARE a media outlet, you must realize this. In that sense they aren't going to go on the newscast at night and castigate the Dems they do Republicans. To do that they would have to abandon pretence of 'objectivity'. Their opposition is more subtle.

They have successfully pushed their own policies as well. Campaign Finance was the finest hour. You don't hear the Democrats or Republicans cheering that piece of legislation, so who got it through? The MSM. The Third Party brokered the deal and used their influence in the media to do it.


34 posted on 07/13/2005 8:36:21 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

oh, I think the Democrats are cheering CFR. As Rove himself said, it enabled the Democrats to outspend the Republicans by $120 m last year. What it did was break the old shibboleth that more money=more votes and more votes = Democratic victory. The reason they're not talking about it is that they know it was a once in a lifetime windfall, because their 527's got out of the gate early and lapped the Republicans while they waited to see if the FEC was going to allow such an outrage, which they did. They just don't know what to try next.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 8:48:21 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: wagglebee
You have to remember that the further left you get in the political continuum, the more of a fantasy world you inhabit. Karl Rove is a fantasy villain. Conspiratorial, friends everywhere in secret places, funded by Halliburton and Enron and God knows who else, master manipulator responsible for the stock market and the price of oil and the Swift Boat vets and Osama's cheery "vote for Kerry" videotape - Rove has been built into the sort of fantasy villain worthy of his own Batman comic and these poor schmucks suck up every word. Visit the Daily Kos or that other site whose name I can't remember if you need convincing (but please wash your hands before returning to FR).

Hence the hysteria. It is a pity that a newspaper with the history of the NY Times has fallen into the hands of paranoid schizophrenics, but it happens. These are people accustomed to creating their own reality and they figure they're in a position to create ours as well. That hasn't been true for a very long time now.

36 posted on 07/13/2005 8:56:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: gusopol3

Hardly.

Article after article has been written with Democrats regreting the passage of CFR and I'll tell you why.

They no longer control the purse strings.

Instead of these interest groups having to beg them for money to buy votes, the Democrats have to incresingly cater to the 527's which they do not control. Hence, Moveon.org declaring they bought the Party.

The Democrats are not happy. The Republicans are not happy. McCain isn't even entirely happy since the 527's exist. Only the activists that now own the party because they control the purse, and the MSM, are happy.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 9:00:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: wagglebee

When this whole Rove issue blows up in the face of the Democrats, it might help to undermine their (Democrats) efforts to block Bush's nomination to the Supreme court.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 9:01:41 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: Soul Seeker

Isn't Moveon.org staffed by Democratic operatives from the top down, like Ickes, etc.? If they regret its passage, it's only because it didn't work although it appeared it had until about 7 PM election night when Rather, et al were putting Virginia in the Kerry column.


39 posted on 07/13/2005 9:11:29 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: FormerACLUmember
An American Hero. Fighting quirtly behind the scenes against the sworn enemies, domestic and foreign, of his beloved United States.

You said it all.

40 posted on 07/13/2005 9:13:10 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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